In the top right of the image is a drop-down menu that allows the user to view the same article, except on the (in this instance) German wiki with German translation.
So the German article would be worded completely different from the English one as someone else on the German wiki would be editing and structuring it. It isn't a direct translation. It would be a buddy system in that each wiki would be helping each other out in views. Viewers that may be native in German, would prefer a German article, and English viewers who might stumble upon the German wiki can refer back to this one.
Also the link example I was using is Harry Potter. Near the "edit button" (just slightly above and to the right of it) you should see the "English" word and hovering over it would allow you to see the drop-down interlinks.
as for "mega", what I think probably happened there is they used find and replace to change "perfect" to ultimate, and then later used find and replace again to change "ultimate" to "mega". cuz thats the only way I can see them somehow changing "perfect" to "mega" in digitamamons profile.
also that profile is outright BS anyway lmao. "digitamamon cannot digivolve", except the fact that devitamamon exists, titamon was made as his mega alongside Ogremon, and then minervamon from that one vjump page.
Hello. I know this is a long shot, but I was wondering if you have the following Digimon cards and would be willing to sell/trade any. If I'm bothering you, please let me know and I will leave you alone. I just didn't know anywhere else to look. Any help at all would be appreciated.
Agunimon (silver text)
Beetlemon (silver text), ancientgarurumon (silver text),
Not sure if the next ones exist
160, 161, 162, 171,172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 184, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 195,197,198, 199,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209, 210
Holographic Series 1
Holographic Series 2
Holographic Series 3
toy exclusives 24, 25, 56, 62
any D-Cyber cards you might be willing to part with. Thanks again for taking the time and once again sorry if I bothered you. Thanks.
Hi, a few of my edits were reverted again (no surprise), so I want to be blocked, that way, the rest of you guys don’t have to worry about me making any more mistakes & I can no longer feel guilty about it & so I can still look at & enjoy the website. I’m sure this probably doesn’t make sense to you, but I have Autism, so nothin that I say ever makes sense to anyone anyway. Thanks.
All I can find is this (which is cleaning up the link coding to meet our MoS), and this (which is cleaning up the non-quote bits and trimming down to the memorable bit). There's nothing to feel guilty about, your edits are great and I've had more of my own reverted in the same amount of time than you have.
I realize that but I can’t get rid of this guilt that I feel each time my work gets reverted; & if you want the truth, it makes me wish I never edited here in the first place. This really is the best thing for this Wiki, believe me.
how do we treat cross-overs in regards to appearances in other games etc? tai and agumon have now appeared in a cross over in the The Idolmaster Cinderella Girls: Starlight Stage mobile game. like... tai and agumon themselves:
Depends. Are they presented specifically as a cameo (kind of like the mentions in Tamers), or is it treated in-universe as the actual Tai and Agumon dimension-hopped over, and this scenario is also canon to Idolmaster?
If the first, I think we can just make a side article for "Collaborations with Digimon", like on khwiki. If the latter...there may be an argument that Idolmaster is officially part of the Digimon setting now, and we'd be obliged to cover it in some fashion -- though we could probably get away with simply mentioning on of the high-rank pages that it's part of the multiverse, cover the specific Digimon content in those games, and then say "go to the Idolmaster wiki" for everything else.
it seems as far as "canon" goes, agumon and tai were playing the game and got sucked in, and then met the girls. so i guess like how agumon is a video game character in appmon, in this context the game itself exists in adventure's universe (in 2010, somehow) and so they wouldn't actually be meeting the "real" idol master girls, but video game versions if that makes sense? I Don't think its supposed to be seen as a super serious thing... but that video could probably be treated as canon. so like how haru met "video game agumon" in appmon, kizuna tai/agumon met the idolmaster girls but in video game form. so in adventure, just like IRL, theyre a fictional video game they got sucked into and the IM girls dont actually exist as canon humans. thats my take on it (From our side)
im not gonna pretend i know anything about idolmaster tho. it just seems to be a short segment from tai to set up playing a few songs from kizuna in the rhythm game
The Digimon appear to be room decorations. I don't know enough about gacha games, but, from my understanding, some games like Fate/Grand Order, Revue Starlight -Re Live- (I think, not sure), and it seems this game too, have a feature where the player has a room that can be decorated with stuff and you can put characters to visit said room.
I think, I don't know exactly how it works because I've enver played a gacha. But I know from F/GO Wiki that Servants have lines they say when they're in the player's room and some of these lines are reactions to the presence of specific Servants.
By the way, it seems a Digivice, with its own stand to top that, is one of the decorations, and it can make Digimon evolve. I have already seen a video on Twitter of an Agumon evolving to Greymon. We should look into that for DW:EVOREF.
Making a Collaborations with Digimon article anyway might not be a bad thing if we approach it like how the Monster Hunter wiki does with the collaborations the franchise has had over the years which range from armor, weapons and even monster variants based on other properties, characters and creatures from MH appearing in other franchises as cameos to characters from other franchises actually crossing into the Monster Hunter universe including a Moogle and Behemoth from Final Fantasy as well as Geralt, a Nekker, Leshen and Ancient Leshen from the Witcher franchise.
We already the Hatsune Miku stuff anyway so why not?
theyve been going ham with the cross overs lately. as well as miku, they also had some stuff with kumamon (not the dub digimon lol). but... we've probably missed years worth of cross overs, and tbh this is the first time its been a outright canon thing where the characters themsleves appeared like this. the other stuff like miku was just covers of songs sold IRL with some art of miku dressed as tai, etc
Technically we had Emilie "Lili" de Rochefort and her butler from Tekken which arguably qualities as an example of characters crossing into the Digimon universe assuming it's not a shared one with Tekken.
Digimon Collectors also had some cards featuring Summon Night characters.
"weird they went so long without appearing in stuff of other franchises only to suddenly do a bunch at once"
I think it's because promotional crossovers are popular right now. Symphogear XD Unlimited has already had three crossover events already. Revue Starlight -Re Live- had a crossover event with Symphogear, Schoolgirl Strikers had a crossover event with Fate/stay night, some game I never really learned the name of had a crossover with Action Heroine Cheer Fruits (that I don't know if it was an event or what, I just remember the anime's Twitter mentioningthe the crossover), and Granblue Fantasy has had crossovers with but Love Live and Precure and probably more franchises because if I'm not mistaken it's the most popular gacha at the moment.
So we have at least one instance of another franchise sharing its universe with a Digimon game (Tekken/Re:Digitize), one instance of Digimon characters crossing into another franchise's universe (the Cinderella Girls thing from the top of the thread) stuff in other franchises based on Digumon (Hatsune Miku, Battle Spirits, etc) and stuff in Digimon media based on other franchises (Summon Night characters in Collectors).
Yeah, I'm thinking the Monster Hunter wiki has the right idea for approaching collaborations.
i think the ones that count as in actual canon should be put into relevant articles and what not a part of actual canon for digimon, compared to just real life cross overs. EG, the Miku stuff isnt canon to digimon as a "story" or "continiuty" or whatever because it was a real life thing.
lili however, and the tekken universe, is outright canon to re:digitize (also note that tekken itself takes place in the same universe as street figther), meanwhile this idol game is now canon to adventure (in regards to the game existing in adventure at least, followed by tai and agumon being sucked in). digimon collectors with cards for summon night characters i feel like wouldn't count as canon storyline wise, same for the battle spirit card game.
so I think we should try to treat it as in universe (tekken, idol game, etc), and real life stuff (miku, kumamon, hello kitty)
To be fair, Monster Hunter's Collaborations article covers both in-universe and real life stuff hence why I suggested that as the approach we should consider.
It does not make the distinction of is and is not "canon" cause you have at least two continuities, main line and Frontier, not counting spin-offs like Stories and Explore which may exist outside of those two continuities.
Like I get why you want to focus on canon but that isn't really helpful cause the franchise itself doesn't make that distinction.
And by the by Tekken and Street Fighter have not been confirmed to share the same universe, their universes may have just intersected at one time with Akuma being able to cross between them. Think how Geralt and Moogle crossed into the Monster Hunter universe, resulting in them being in the New World during the events of MH World.
Okay, if edit warring is such a bad thing, lets discuss this here.
I really don't see what Flamedramon or Raidramon have to do with that page at all or why you felt the need to bring them up, but I once again insist that the Cursed Breath talked about in the Digimon Data Collection is mot referencing the Dark Shot attack in any way.
I mentioned them because they are a directly analogous situation, specifically with Thunder Blast and Fire Rocket.
We do not match the dub names to the JP names based on similarity of wording or seemingly synonymous names. We match them based on what name is used in the exact same situation.
"I once again insist that the Cursed Breath talked about in the Digimon Data Collection is mot referencing the Dark Shot attack in any way."
You can insist that, but it's neither accurate nor following policy. As I explained, the dub name and JP name are matched up, as recorded in the appendix I linked. Cursed Breath is literally the dubbed name for Ground Zero in that episode. It's silly that they're reusing the name of another attack, sure, but the first commandment of being a wiki editor is that you don't get to choose what to cover based on silliness. We are not revising the published materials, we're simply reporting them.
But unlike Flamedramon and Raidramon, the attack wasn't actually used. If it was showing SkullGreymon firing the Dark Shot and calling it Cursed Breath, that would be a lot less ground for me to stand on, but this is simply showing a picture of the Digimon and literally saying that "his attacks INCLUDE Cursed Breath".
It's not a thing about "ground to stand on". You seem to be approaching this from the angle of "is it more parsimonious than the other options", but I'm trying to explain to you that the wiki doesn't make that a goal in the first place, because Bandai and Toei have made it a lost cause. We do not try to tell the source material what it is.
Flamedramon and Raidramon are used as the ur-examples of why we don't try to detangle "what attack this is really meant to be a dub of" (Angewomon is also a good example, though not why the policy was started). We simply report which English names are used in the same context as the original Japanese names. We don't even link up names that sound similar if they're not used in identical contexts.
The onus is on Bandai/Toei to not leave a mess. If they do, well, we report that. But we don't try to tangle or untangle anything that isn't explicitly stated, especially with attacks.
I just looked up Parsimonious, (seriously, who uses that word?) and it means stingy. What does any of this have to do with money? How can an option be stingy? What on Earth makes you think I judge it based on whatever that happens to mean? I just want it to be right.
What are you talking about? This is a wiki. A Fan-made database of a certain topic. Someone had to type up that note at one point and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Bandai/Toei themselves. And if it was, then they can tell me how wrong I am, and I can tell them how stupid they are for thinking that the note makes sense.
I concede that sometimes an attack name can get changed up between different seasons and dubs, like how Unimon shooting energy from his mouth has been called Aerial Attack, Holy Shot, Horn Blaster, and Hail of Horns. But what we have here is an endslate where Mikey says that SkullGreymon's Attacks include one called Cursed Breath. An attack that we know SkullGreymon has that is completely different from his famous missile attack Dark Shot/Ground Zero/Flame Rockets, where he breathes a purple smog that can paralyze opponents. Mikey then makes a joke by saying that it must "smell like Shoutmon after a burger with extra onions", and if I need to explain that joke to you, you either have the worst sense of humor ever and/or are the most oblivious person in the world.
Through all evidence I have gathered:
1. The fact Mikey said his attacks Include Cursed Breath, meaning he has other attacks that weren't listed.
2. The fact that the attack was stated to probably smell really bad and not that it would blow up everything.
3. The fact that SkullGreymon does have a documented attack called Cursed Breath.
This has led me to the conclusion that instead of talking about the Dark Shot attack like the Japanese Dub didn't, (because all they did was put up the name of the attack) the English Dub decided that they would talk about a different one. One that was completely different and gave them a good chance to make a fart joke.
"I just looked up Parsimonious, (seriously, who uses that word?) and it means stingy. What does any of this have to do with money? How can an option be stingy? What on Earth makes you think I judge it based on whatever that happens to mean? I just want it to be right."
"What are you talking about? This is a wiki. A Fan-made database of a certain topic. Someone had to type up that note at one point and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Bandai/Toei themselves. And if it was, then they can tell me how wrong I am, and I can tell them how stupid they are for thinking that the note makes sense."
This is a wiki written by fans, but we report what the canon says. We don't make executive decisions of our own based on "evidence".
Again, stop being an asshole.
"An attack that we know SkullGreymon has that is completely different from his famous missile attack Dark Shot/Ground Zero/Flame Rockets, where he breathes a purple smog that can paralyze opponents."
While it's possible that the infamously half-effort localizers decided to dig into obscure Digimon information to pull out an attack used in a single, unpopular game, it's not explicit, and it's not an obvious pattern of theirs. That's why we have the policy of doing 1:1 matching. If you disagree with the results of 1:1 matching, then the discussion needs to be on changing that policy of how the wiki interprets what the DDC are saying.
"Mikey then makes a joke by saying that it must "smell like Shoutmon after a burger with extra onions", and if I need to explain that joke to you, you either have the worst sense of humor ever and/or are the most oblivious person in the world."
Again, stop being an asshole.
"Through all evidence I have gathered:"
I'm not sure if you haven't noticed that I'm an admin, who keeps trying to tell you what the policy is instead of merely saying "I disagree with you and would prefer the page a different way", but I will try to remind you, once again, that a discussion of evidence is completely outside the scope of the project. We don't try to construct our own explanations for what's going on in the canon -- all we do is record what the canon explicitly is. If you want to change that, you don't do it by edit warring on an article and then being pissy on a talk page, you do it by starting a community discussion and getting consensus agreement to change policy.
Secondly, and I'm gonna be frank: a quick look at your message wall shows that you have a very bad track record of making decisions based on "the evidence you've gathered". You have a habit of inserting non-canon, fan-made information (or removing canon, cited information) whenever you seem to dislike what the canon is. This needs to stop, and if you want to continue with the project, you need to understand that this wiki will not be "What RayvenShade thinks the canon should be" -- it's going to be "what the canon says". If you disagree with another editor's interpretation of what the canon says, great, bring it up on the talk page, but you need to immediately stop making your own decisions on which canon to ignore and which fanon to include.
I will say, personally, that you're certainly not helping your effort to change policy by deliberately trying to misunderstand things and be rude. While a quick look at the DDC bits shows that the dub often has a different number of attacks than the original did, meaning there definitely is some level of discretion on the part of the localizers and on that basis I personally would be willing to support revising the policy accordingly, you still have to convince the majority of the community that your proposed revision is legitimate, and acting like you have been will definitely leave a bad taste in their mouths.
Fine, if you really want that note there, I will leave it. But discarding all the protocol that I apparently have to go through to get it changed, you can at least see why I think it shouldn't be there, right?
Sorry for acting that way, but I thought we were having a discussion about whether or not it should be changed, and from that point of view of view it kind of sounded to me like you were being hard headed and kind of stuck up. So I responded to that with sarcasm.
Please dont judge me based on my wall. Some of those were just misunderstandings.
I can personally see justification for changing it. The issue is that the community consensus is currently in the direction of treating it as a 1:1 match, so if we're going to do something different, it needs to be with community approval.
Bring it up on the talk page for Digimon Fusion/Appendices/Attacks. I think you can probably get some agreement on exceptions to 1:1 matching if the attack is described in a way that clearly does not fit the "matched" attack, especially if it fits a separate attack (which I agree it seems like Cursed Breath does). It just needs to be proposed with acknowledgement that that's not what the policy currently dictates.
one example where bandai dubbers were idiots and used the name of one attack for another is reppamon. previous games used the dub name "Razor Wind" for "Shinkū Kamaitachi". then cyber sleuth came in and reppamon's attack was known as "razor wind". unaware players (including me at first) looking at reppamon's page (and also the game) would assume that means the attack in japanese was "Shinkū Kamaitachi", to match previous localisations, however that was not the case, and instead the dubbers ended up naming "Kurukuru Rekkūzan" as "Razor Wind" (previously localised as rolling tackle). this straight up threw me off when I was looking at the cyber sleuth localised names. the dubbers knew reppamon had a attack dubbed as "razor wind", and just didnt care what attack this was attached to when it came to cyber sleuth. in fact, the attack animation is very clearly "Kurukuru Rekkūzan" as well, so this was just them not caring.
MetalGarurumon LMAO. every other game/anime switches which attack is dubbed as which and that shit gave me a headache when I went over it to double check lmfao. like, hes had a ridiculous history.
then there was the laziness of hackers memory. alphamon had "Ouryūken", which was dubbed as "Blade of the Dragon King". that's all fine and dandy, but then HM removed "Ouryūken" (as Alphamon O was now playable), and gave alphamon Seiken Gradalpha as replacement. the dubbers were too lazy to change the attack name, so this was dubbed as "Blade of the Dragon King", even tho that makes no sense (with Blade of the Dragon King being a translation of Ouryuken). to make matters worse, his in game profile DID use the name "seiken gradalpha" meaning the dub of HM gave the attack two different names.
dubbers are known for being dumbasses when it comes to this stuff.
How is someone spreading completely incorrect information about someone elses fan character somehow fanfiction?
Yeah someone back in the day started a hoax about the character, you know it is a hoax yet for some reason want to preserve the misinformation instead of simply updating it to reflect the actual reality of the fan created version.
Why you'd want to preserve some rumour people spread about the person who owned the character is beyond me. We both know the information is incorrect.
"to reflect the actual reality of the fan created version."
There isn't one. The fanfiction on the acidrenamon page is on a meta-level, like Ben Drowned. They're making up their own story about acidrenamon in the real world. There's no "misinformation" being preserved, because the Fan: articles are by definition non-canonical fan opinions and creations -- the article itself is fiction. They are not meant to be taken as reliable in any way, and they exist solely to allow editors and visitors to blow off steam by making fiction.
You misunderstanding that, and choosing to sling around accusations of malice against the editor who wrote the article, and imputing bad faith on the part of the staff is pretty irresponsible.
If you would like to create a separate page for the "real" AcidRenamon, you may. If you would like to help build the current article based on what KimeramonRocks started, you may. But slashing and burning someone else's fan fiction because you don't like it is not okay.
I did not mean to imply bad faith and I apologize, nor malice on the part of the one who originally made the article.
It was a hoax started off this site to discredit the maker, I’m not claiming the op knew this and probably should’ve been clearer about that but that is in essence where it originated and why I acted how I did, however I recognize I acted to rashly and should have contacted you first to ask clarification.
It just seems a bit tasteless, but I guess I was in the wrong to edit it once it was already moved into the Fan category. And I apologize for that.
If you'd like to contact KimeramonRocks and explain your interpretation of the situation to him, more power to you. I'm just interacting in this as an admin, and our policy has been to let editors use the Fan: space essentially as their own writing pad -- as long as they're not somehow doing something illegal, they can claim that Digimon was invented by GameFreak in 1875, and they would be allowed to.