DigimonWiki talk:Digivolution References

Wow
You got it all while I was still looking for the backup of my digivolution document.

If you want, I can still handle the games, cards, and anything you might be missing.KrytenKoro 04:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "Paired Devices" is actually a slight mistranslation - the kanji can be translated either as "Anti-god Devices" or "Twin Sacred Devices". While they do come in a pair, the manga emphasizes their nature as Anti-God (as in, Anti-Yggdrasil) Devices, and doesn't really place that much importance on them being used together - for example, VictoryGreymon starts to work before Z'dGarurumon does, showing that they can work separately. Its almost definitely intended to be a pun, but the primary meaning is that of being "Anti-god".KrytenKoro 04:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I use Digital Starlight for my translations; I don't actually know Japanese, so I can't tell. You can change it if you want. Lanate 03:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Data Squad
I may have been wrong, since I haven't completed the game, but each of the children I saw exhibited the sin to some degree, like in the anime.KrytenKoro 03:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * They all exhibited the sin except for Yuma, and I think that's solely because of her age... It would be disturbing for a child to have lustful tendencies...  I'll leave them there, if nothing else because it would make sense.  Just leave it as person, as Nitta's not a child. Lanate 03:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah. I've only beaten one of them so far (Belphemon), and seen cutscenes for one or two others (I think it was Beelzemon and Leviamon?). I've really gotten sidetracked by Dusk, as its much less aggravating to play (I currently have a whole page document listing what I need to do with the Digimon in my farm to get new Digivolutions - my ShineGreymon Ruin Mode has about thirty steps to get to Burst Mode, involving getting things like Paladin Mode and Chibomon along the way).
 * Oh, by the way, I'm going to spend part of tonight uploading most of my Dusk notes - I've drawn rough, usable maps for most of the levels, and keep some track of the species mission stories and items (though not rewards, sorry). Should I also be uploading the Gallery profiles? Do we want to actually have those up, as a resource?
 * By the way, do you have Dawn, or Dusk? My girlfriend recenty saw a sale at Gamestop and got one, but she forgot which one I had, so we both have Dusk now. Any chance we could do egg-matching or even trading, if you live anywhere near Indy?KrytenKoro 05:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Dawn/Dusk rival evolutions
Do we want to include these as "observed"? Is there any other tamers that have their team progression shown? Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  05:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The only thing to take from it is Lilamon > Lotosmon. Count as observed, I guess. Lanate (talk) 02:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Starter degeneration
I still want to check these, so I'll get back to you when I've confirmed them. Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  05:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, can I make an argument for starter degeneration? Your starters come pre-digivolved with their own digivolution lines, so couldn't that, theoretically make them canon?  And, if you won't but that, can we break the warps and say that, when they degenerated, it's implied they went through the intermediate forms?  Or would that be stretching it? Lanate (talk) 03:25, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean for the first, but the starters do have branching intermediate digivolutions, and it's possible to DNA your way up and down those chains. While it's pretty clear, just to be safe I would suggest just doing what is shown. Glorious  CHAOS!  10:34, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Cards
Okay, I've gone through all the program cards for Hyper Coliseum except for Booster 25 and 26, and all the Battle Terminal cards.

I can't be sure if I've done all the HC promos, so if anyone knows of promos not on the Digimon Card Menu, please tell me. Also, while I spotted one or two, I wasn't particularly looking through the Digimon cards for cards that displayed evolutions, like the promo Growlmon that has WarGrowlmon in the background. If anyone knows of any more of these, please tell me. Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  03:38, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Question - on the D-Tector cards, complete evolution lines are posted on the rookies, and higher forms often say "gain x points for digivolving from this Digimon". Should these be included? Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  03:40, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want. To be honest, they're probably all digivolutions covered in the upper areas, but you can still add them if you have the time. Lanate (talk) 04:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Welp, I took this as an opportunity to save scans of all the available cards. I've gotten through all of them at the terminal except for the Alpha cards. Needless to say, there wasn't much profit out of it, as I only got a few usable refs on the Battle Terminal cards. Well, at least I have a stockpile for when we get the card wiki started, though it would take me a year to do. Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  10:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe, once I've got nearly all of them downloaded and organized, I could set them up as a zip file, and then have a special "You can help!" section with a link to the download, and instructions on how to name and categorize them. Farm it out a little, y'know? Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  10:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've gone through all the cards except for alpha and Hyper Coliseum 25 and 26, which I can't find scans for. Once I'm done with this, I'll look into getting permission from Card Terminal to use their scans, and then start setting up a zip file so we can let people download these on their own.
 * Hey Lanate, if you still have those scans from Vandemon's page, would you be able to add them to the zip file? Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  04:16, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

"Battle Tactics" cards?
Has anyone ever heard of these before? Apparently they're real. Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  13:10, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Other errata
※?? Dexlution? Blast Evolution?

From Shiroi Hane
is a source for most of the Tamers digivolutions not shown in the show, like Kiimon or in this case, Paomon. It also explains that Wendigomon is not Lopmon's true champion, but I forget exactly what the wording was.

Digimon Frontier

 * Pagumon>Raremon
 * Candlemon>Wizardmon
 * Mushroomon>Woodmon
 * Woodmon>Cherrymon (D)
 * Grumblemon>Gigasmon
 * ToyAgumon/ShadowToyAgumon
 * Monzaemon/WaruMonzaemon
 * Tsunomon>Gabumon
 * Lobomon/KendoGarurumon
 * Lobomon+KendoGarurumon>Beowulfmon
 * Beowulfmon>MagnaGarurumon
 * EmperorGreymon+MagnaGarurumon>Susanoomon
 * Flamemon>Agunimon
 * Agunimon/BurningGreymon
 * Agunimon+BurningGreymon>Aldamon
 * Aldamon>EmperorGreymon
 * Kotemon>Dinohumon
 * Bearmon>Grizzmon
 * D'Arcmon/HippoGryphmon>Murmuxmon
 * Arbormon/Petaldramon
 * Beetlemon/MetalKabuterimon
 * Ranamon/Calmaramon
 * Kazemon/Zephyrmon
 * Kumamon/KorIkkakumon
 * TorikaraBallmon>?>Burgermon/EbiBurgermon>Burgermon Champion
 * Mercuremon/Sakkakumon
 * Mercuremon>ShadowSeraphimon
 * ShadowBeetlemon/ShadowMetalKabuterimon
 * Patamon>?>?>Seraphimon
 * Duskmon/Velgemon
 * Loewemon/JagerLoewemon
 * Conomon>?>Lopmon>?>?>Cherubimon
 * Cherubimon/Cherubimon (Virus)
 * Gotsumon>Meteormon
 * YukimiBotamon>?>Salamon>?>?>Ophanimon
 * Lucemon>?>Lucemon Chaos Mode
 * Lucemon Chaos Mode>Lucemon Satan Mode+Lucemon Larva


 * Shamamon>BurningGreymon

Digimon Data Squad

 * Agumon (New)>GeoGreymon
 * Lalamon>Sunflowmon
 * Kunemon>Flymon
 * Gaomon>Gaogamon
 * DemiMeramon>Meramon
 * Drimogemon>Digmon
 * Elecmon>Garurumon (Black)
 * Keramon>Kurisarimon
 * Puwamon>Biyomon
 * Biyomon>Aquilamon
 * Aquilamon>Garudamon
 * GeoGreymon>RizeGreymon
 * Falcomon>Peckmon
 * Gaogamon>MachGaogamon
 * Budmon>Lalamon
 * Sunflowmon>Lilamon
 * Kamemon>Gawappamon
 * PawnChessmon (Black)>KnightChessmon (Black)
 * PawnChessmon (White)>KnightChessmon (White)

Comments

 * I was hesitant to include the D'arcmon/HippoGryphmon>Murmuxmon because of Bokomon's statement that he can assume any form (which I took to mean that he merely warped his image into D'arcmon and HippoGryphmon rather than actually digivolved. Lanate (talk) 12:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't remember that statement, what scene was it? Wouldn't he just turn into Onismon in that case, to save the trouble? Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  17:07, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ...beacuse there are limits to what he can transform into? I was working off of WPP's translation, and it was the one right after Murmuxmon appeared and Bokomon was introducing him.


 * Oh, by the way, I moved into my dorm and I didn't get a chance to copy the digimon stuff onto my external hard drive, so I'm without access to all of my anime/manga. Basically, anything I can't do from online sources I won't be able to. Lanate (talk) 03:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * According to the WPP sub, HippogGryphomon clearly says "HippoGryphomon, Slide Evolution! D'Arcmon"
 * Okay, now keep in mind I'm not fluent in speaking Japanese, but as far as I can tell, what WPP translates as "any" is あれは魔導で色な"Digimon blah blah, which means "By magic he can change into various digimon". I definitely did not hear him say "いずれか", which is what is usually used to mean "any". So, what it sounds like to me is that he's telling us what we already know - Murmuxmon can "digivolve" to other Digimon, specifically d'Arcmon and HippoGryphomon.
 * I lost all my meticulously organized manga scans too, and most of my recent translations and documents, so I'm working on replacing those as well. Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  04:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course in the english dub, they use "any" as well, so I guess I'm wrong and he can turn into any Digimon. However, he does use a "Slide Evolution" to d'Arcmon, and Slide Evolutions in Frontier seem to be pretty much whatever you have the data for anyway (conceivably, Agunimon could slide to Gigasmon, and Mercuremon slides to ShadowSeraphimon), so I think he has the same deal going on there. Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  04:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, I found the card that was displayed in "Guilmon comes alive", and added it to the card list, since it's a card and all. I'm still not sure how I missed it in the first place. Not even Mr. Lister's  Koromon survived intact.  10:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Racing
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/digimon_r/racers.html

New Posibilities
I really really want to put the following digivolutions: But I know I can't justify them save for an argument on how they're obtained (they're the only ones obtained by leveling up the Rookie), but it would do so many things to do this and break a bunch of warps.
 * Monmon > Hookmon > Armormon > Cannondramon
 * Kotemon > Dinohumon > Kyukimon > GuardiAngemon
 * Bearmon > Grizzmon > GrapLeomon > Marsmon

Also, for Digimon Frontier: Island of Lost Digimon by reason of sibling relationship. Lanate (talk) 02:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Kotemon > Dinohumon
 * Bearmon > Grizzlymon

Digital Monster D-Project (based on Post-Game battles)
 * Koromon >> MetalGreymon
 * Agumon >> WarGreymon
 * Minomon >> Stingmon
 * Wormmon >> Dinobeemon
 * Tokomon >> Angemon
 * Patamon >> MagnaAngemon
 * Nyaromon >> RedVeedramon
 * Elecmon >> Zhuqiaomon
 * Elecmon >> Ebonwumon
 * Veemon >> ExVeemon
 * Nyaromon >> Angewomon
 * Salamon > Gatomon
 * Bukamon >> MarineAngemon
 * Syakomon >> Whamon
 * Pokomon >> Taomon
 * Tsunomon >> WereGarurumon
 * Gabumon >> MetalGarurumon
 * Gigimon > Guilmon > Growlmon
 * Gummimon >> Gargomon
 * Terriermon >> BlackMegaGargomon
 * Pagumon >> Diaboromon
 * DemiMeramon >> Arukenimon

Of course, if we want count it like a V-Pet and do from Baby up until divergence... The scary thing is that a lot of the latter digivolutions make sense.


 * Botamon > Koromon > Agumon > Greymon
 * Punimon > Tsunomon > Gabumon > Garurumon
 * Chibomon > Demiveemon > Veemon > ExVeemon
 * Leafmon > Minomon > Wormmon > Stingmon
 * Poyomon > Tokomon > Patamon > Angemon
 * YukimiBotamon > Nyaromon > Salamon > Gatomon
 * Jarimon > Gigimon > Guilmon > Growlmon
 * Reremon > Pokomon > Renamon > Kyubimon
 * Conomon > Gummimon > Terriermon > Gargomon
 * Zurumon > Pagumon > DemiDevimon > Devimon
 * Mokumon > DemiMeramon > Impmon > Devidramon
 * Nyokimon > Yokomon > Kunemon > Airdramon
 * Nyaromon > Elecmon > RedVeedramon
 * Pichimon > Bukamon > Syakomon > Dolphmon Lanate (talk) 02:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Just putting it out there.
 * So... any thoughts? Lanate (talk) 03:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Especially because those digivolution lines are a major part of the plot (I think), I would almost suggest using the entire lines. However, from what I've read about the gameplay, the "lines" are more of a DNA type of thing - any Digimon can get it's next level equivalent in the Wormmon line with enough forest DNA. Do any of us actually have the game to check how much of the digivolution is story-related, and how much of it is V-Pet based? Glorious  CHAOS!  10:26, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Farm Mission claimed evolutions
How would I go about fleshing this out? Lanate (talk) 05:28, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

World
On Digimon World section, it says "None?"

I take it that means that it just needs a list of all the possible Digivolutions in that game that the player can raise, right? If so, then I should be able to lend a hand. P.S. I'm not a newbie at Wikia, just the Digimon Wiki.  King Nothing  Speak now, vermin! 18:49, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, the Digivolutions that you can force in a game don't count. If you did something to make a Digimon evolve, then it doesn't count. In Digimon World, if trained correctly, you could turn and Elecmon into an Angemon; obviously, this isn't cannon. I think the idea behind the "None?" indicates that there are no actual Digivolutions in-game, other than those that the player can influence on his partner. No cut-scenes or in-game renderings have any other Digimon evolving, unless you count the De-Digivolution of Machinedramon into a Rookie form after he's been beaten. Mbjones90 19:52, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This list isn't supposed to become a full list of every digivolution possible throughout the series, which would be largely uninformative, and anyways, redundant to wikimon. The stated policy is to only cover the story-based evolutions. Glorious  CHAOS!  00:15, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, just wasn't sure what was meant, that's all.  King Nothing  Speak now, vermin! 13:10, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Digimon Battle
Okay, what's our position on these?

They're pretty much all straight lines, but it's (1) a Korean game (is it officially licensed?), and (2) it is technically video-game forced. Glorious  CHAOS!  03:49, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

The only really weird ones we got, though, are
 * Rapidmon (Armor) > Raijinmon
 * Cyberdramon > Fujinmon
 * Zurumon > Elecmon/Bearmon
 * GrapLeomon > DinoTigermon (but it's the X version of SaberLeomon, so...)
 * Impmon > Devimon
 * SkullSatamon > Beelzemon
 * Lopmon > Prairiemon (though it fits the Deva from Armor bit)
 * Monodramon > Devidramon
 * Kotemon > Musyamon
 * Phantomon > Dynasmon
 * Stingmon > JewelBeemon > GranKuwagamon


 * I think that, at the very least, we can take the General Digivolutions. Would it count as forced if you don't really have to do anything to obtain them? I mean, while you unlock them at the higher levels, the General Digivolution path is already set out from Rookie onward.  It won't let you digivolve them, but you can see the portraits and what you will obtain right off the bat.  Yeah, I'm mainly doing this 'cause it breaks a bunch of warps.  Lanate (talk) 05:48, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Plus, you don't even get to choose to digivolve. It's automatic when you level up. I'm saying "Go" on this. Glorious  CHAOS!  17:07, March 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Anyone object to me adding the "Special" Digivolutions here? They're just like General ones, except you have to have the "Special" version of the Digimon.  I don't think the Card ones or the Armors count, as they're forced. Lanate (talk) 04:43, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeppers. Glorious  CHAOS!  06:12, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

DigiXros

 * Shoutmon X3 (Incomplete) - do we want to consider this a separate Digimon?
 * MailBirdramon (+ Golemon) - Uses MailBirdramon's Trident Tail, yet it is clearly a DigiXros. How do we deal with this?
 * Starmon/Pickmon DigiXroses - Should they each get their own page, or be grouped on the Pickmons page (Starmon is not in all of them). Also, do we want to try and split the Pickmon's by color, or continue grouping them together? Is there any source to do so?
 * Also, we still have to deal with the manga, and its Mushed-Up MachLeomon and ScudMissimon. Glorious  CHAOS!  22:47, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Shoutmon X3 (Incomplete) - No; link mask to Shoutmon X3 with a footnote or something.
 * MailBirdramon (+ Golemon) - Ignore it for now; if there's no card or supplementary clarification eventually, slap it with an unofficial name ala "Agumon Burst Mode". I don't think we should have any misinformation spread at the moment, so if it doesn't have an official source name, quotation marks around it please.
 * Shove all of the Starmon/Pickmon DigiXroses on the Pickmon page. Don't separate them by colors yet, but mention it in the bio somewhere.
 * Yeah, we do on the manga count. I can get them.  Lanate (talk) 02:43, August 17, 2010 (UTC)