Card talk:Main Page

Okay, crediting should go something like this:

St-01:Agumon from the Digi-Battle Card Game.

Card scanned by Rianmon, originally hosted at Cyberdramon's Digital Index.

I need to go through my e-mails and confirm which ones are Rianmon's, and who the others belong to. Seriously, if anyone wants to help me start going through the Digi-Battle cards, that would be spectacular. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  03:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Do we want to combine the "Digivolves to" and the "Japanese/American cards" section for Digimon without Japanese/American cards with the "Notes" section? I guess it would be simpler. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  03:53, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Finally - it shouldn't need any consideration unless it actually happens, but what do we want to do when both the American and Japanese, or possibly even twice in one series, have the same numbering for two different cards? Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  23:30, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Naming
Do we want the pages to combine Digimon with the same basic name but that are different in some way? For example, the Digimon who have "X-Antibody" specifically as part of their names? Or stuff like Coredramon (Blue)/(Green), when there are specific differences in stats and such. And if so, how do we want to organize these?

Basically, right now we combine Digimon with the same basic name in the main wiki, but it doesn't have the "American/Japanese" organization requirement that the card articles do.

So far, I've only been including cards with exactly the same name (with regards to dubbing) in the card articles. Sooner or later, I would have to make separate pages for the cards they took the time to add "X-Antibody" too, and it would be wildly misrepresentative of how many X Digimon they're actually are. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  05:35, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Based on the confusion inherent in the BlackWarGreymon situation, I'm going to go ahead and consider Digimon that are ever given the same name as appropriate for the same page. So far, I've only left out Digimon with "X-Antibody" in their names, from the Battle Terminal and Alpha cards. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  04:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

A to 0
We need to explain the "Aを0に" aspect of the Defend technique somewhere. It's inherent in all "Defend" (at least for Digital Monster Card Game), but I have no idea what it really does, because I don't actually know the rules for the Japanese game. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  04:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, if you wish to explain it somewhere, we could always create a page that explains the rules of the game. Personally, I also wanted to re-learn how to play the game. - Digi9346 - Welcome to the end of the world... 10:38, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

If it's anything like the Digimon Digital Card Battle game, it causes the enemy's A attack strength to go to zero. Can't say anything for certain though. Lanate (talk) 14:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Blue Card
Honestly, I think it looks better without that. Do we maybe want to use that as a link from the front page to the card wiki, like the other Digimon wiki's do? Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  05:40, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * That's fine by me. - - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 08:32, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Gomamon's database
Okay, Gomamon2000 doesn't list his curent e-mail address in the database, but I found one of his old ones in his forum. I've e-mailed both that, and another e-mail of a "Gomamon2000", and neither of them work. So, I don't think we'll be able to contact him.

However, there is the important fact that the scans aren't his in the first place - they're Vandemon's (not the digital starlight one, the Card Menu one). Vandemon is similarly un-contactable, but since Gomamon and other prominent sites used his scans, it seems to be OK. So, I think we should be okay in using the Digital Monster scans originally form Vamdemon's site.

Honestly, I've tried contacting Gomamon any way I can, and I haven't figured out a way to get in contact with Vandemon, either. I suggest we start uploading the Digital Monster cards, crediting Vandemon and possibly Gomamon2000, and if either of them end up having a problem with it, we immediately take them down. They're not as high-quality as the Card Terminal scans, but they're good enough.

If Gomamon2000 and Vandemon do have a problem with this, then I would like to say that I sincerely apologize for any trouble. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  18:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Nihongo
Does anyone want me to actually add the Japanese text that I translate? Either as alternate text, or on the talk page? Usually, I just throw it away afterwards, but if anyone is interested in it, I can start adding it. In case anyone wants to verify my translation, but doesn't want to spend an hour typing the text up. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  22:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Put it on the talk page. Or put it in the main article and hide it. Just don't throw it away. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 06:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Digital Monster Card Game Special Ability powers

 * "Sky" (空中)
 * "Gale" (疾風)
 * "Grappling" (格闘)
 * "Underground" (穴中)
 * "Underwater" (水中)
 * "Flame" (火炎)
 * "Proud" (プラウド)
 * "Hungry" (ハングリー)
 * "Ice" (氷雪)

There's a lot more than the five in Digi-Battle. And I have no idea what they actually do. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  21:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Tabbed Nav code
copied from Wikimon - we probably need to implement this for cards with multiple releases (but with the same number):

For the tabbed navigation, here are the components for it to work (looks like the other Digimon wikis are also after this): /*Copied from http://www.barelyfitz.com/projects/tabber/example.css used under mit license see http://www.barelyfitz.com/projects/tabber/ /* $Id: example.css,v 1.5 2006/03/27 02:44:36 pat Exp $ */
 * Create MediaWiki:Tabber.js (also,  needs to be added to the MediaWiki:Common.js)
 * MediaWiki:Common.css:

/*-- REQUIRED to hide the non-active tab content. But do not hide them in the print stylesheet! --*/ .tabberlive .tabbertabhide { display:none; }

/*-- .tabber = before the tabber interface is set up  .tabberlive = after the tabber interface is set up  --*/ .tabber { } .tabberlive { margin-top:1em; }

/*-- ul.tabbernav = the tab navigation list li.tabberactive = the active tab --*/ ul.tabbernav { margin:0; padding: 3px 0; border-bottom: 1px solid #CCC; font: bold 12px Verdana, sans-serif; }

ul.tabbernav li { list-style: none; margin: 0; display: inline; }

ul.tabbernav li a { padding: 3px 0.5em; margin-left: 3px; border: 1px solid #ccc; border-bottom: none; background: #f2f7ff; text-decoration: none; }

ul.tabbernav li a:link { color: #448; } ul.tabbernav li a:visited { color: #667; }

ul.tabbernav li a:hover { color: #000; background: #fff9f2; border-color: #CCC; }

ul.tabbernav li.tabberactive a { background-color: #fff; border-bottom: 1px solid #fff; }

ul.tabbernav li.tabberactive a:hover { color: #000; background: white; border-bottom: 1px solid white; }

/*-- .tabbertab = the tab content Add style only after the tabber interface is set up (.tabberlive) --*/ .tabberlive .tabbertab { padding:5px; border:1px solid #CCC; border-top:0;

/* If you don't want the tab size changing whenever a tab is changed you can set a fixed height */

/* height:200px; */

/* If you set a fix height set overflow to auto and you will get a   scrollbar when necessary */

/* overflow:auto; */ }

/* If desired, hide the heading since a heading is provided by the tab */ .tabberlive .tabbertab h2 { display:none; } .tabberlive .tabbertab h3 { display:none; }

/* Example of using an ID to set different styles for the tabs on the page */ .tabberlive#tab1 { } .tabberlive#tab2 { } .tabberlive#tab2 .tabbertab { height:200px; overflow:auto; }

General syntax (might write an actual tutorial for this here):

Example: Content More content --Ainz 22:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hide boxes
Do we want to modify the infoboxes so that they hide the text, and only show the name and a thumbnail of the card until expanded? It would cut down on the huge whitespace of the card articles, and could be implemented within the templates, keeping us from having to redo every page. I'm not quite sure how to do it though, and I'd have to find out, which is why I want to ask first. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  23:09, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Let's take it one step at a time. Before we decide whether to hide the text or not, let us implement it first. We'll see how it turns out. You can find out how to improve it later. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 07:05, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Difference between effects and abilities in early Japanese cards
I need to figure out the difference - I think abilities are the ones with circles in front of them, but I have no way to be sure. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  15:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Typos
Okay, obvious typos like WarGreymon + WereGreymon > Omnimon are easily figured out. But what about stuff like Garudamon (Champion) and Chaosdramon (Ultimate)? Do we want to consider these typos, very rare variants, or what? Do we want to mention the typo but keep the categories, since they would still function as those levels in play? Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  22:16, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I think we should just change it and put a note about the typo. That would at least prevent those seeing the Card Wiki (or Digimon in general) for the first time to be confused. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 09:30, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Evolution types
So far, I've been leaving out the part of the Digivolution requirements that says whether it's a spirit evolution, a DNA evolution, or an armor evolution. Most of these are pretty obvious what they are - if it's plus a Digimon, it's DNA, a spirit, Spirit, a Digi-Egg, Armor. Do we want to modify the template so that the header is modified if it's a special type of evolution? What do we want to do with this, if anything? Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  22:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Card:Digi-Battle Card Game
Do we want "Digivice" to be one page, or six? I don't think most of them appear more than once, so each would be pretty empty if they were seperate. However, they all have different names, and they might be referred to separately by other option cards (I'm not sure). Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  00:21, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, the first starter and first two booster's are the ones that overlap with the Japanese cards. Do we want to have the header's be different, or do we want to use the discrimating link syntax? _2 or something. Basically, do we want to do it once and have the weight on the article, or do we want to keep track of it and keep the weight on the links? Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  21:35, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'll say put all the Digivices in one page. It makes it a lot more convenient and organised. As for the clashing with the Japanese cards part, I have totally no idea what you just said. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 03:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Except in extraordinary coincidences, only the first Starter and the first two Boosters should have the same card numbers between the Japanese and American cards. Now, it's possible to link to the second occurrence of a header, so we could hypothetically just fix the links on the cardlists and the image crediting, to point to the correct places. Or, we could fix the headers themselves, to say "St-01 (DB)", or something like that. Basically, do we want to have to remember to correct the links each time we write them, or do we want to have weird-looking headers? Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  05:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Weird headers? Who cares about that? There are sufficient 'weird' headers in this wiki already. So I think just going with the 'weird' headers will work better than having to correct the links all the time. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 06:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Card:Agumon
Do we like the language for the "notes" section? Also, how do we want to handle cards that were re-released with different art or as holofoils? The Card Terminal and the Digimon Wiki have a kind of complicated button setup for rotating the info in the infobox - we might think about having such tabs on the image bit, but I definitely have no bloody idea how Ainz does his coding. Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day.  But set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.  22:22, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Card:Alphamon
Make sure to create an Ouryuuken redirect when we decide how to spell it. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  05:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Card:Mistymon
As far as I can tell, there's no released romanization for Mistymon, and it's within acceptable transliteration limits. So, while "Mystimon" might seem obvious, we don't really have any reason to claim that Mistymon is the wrong spelling yet.

However, it is quite obvious that Mistymon is not the intended Japanese name, so we need to be prepared to correct the names and links once an official romanization is given. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  00:05, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, we need to verify the dub name for FlaWizarmon. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  00:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Card:Veedramon
Do we want to group Veedramon Zero with these guys, or buy himself? This decision will be used for other "treat this Digimon as" cards, such as Gabo, Leo, or Warg & Melga. However, I think there is a GeoGreymon who does that too, so... Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  06:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Card:WarGrowlmon
Do we want to have the category parts of Special Abilities and Effects link to the actual categories? I've not been doing it so far, but it should be pretty easy to go back and do the linking, if it's desired. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  18:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Which categories? - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 19:50, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * How you had the "Data" bit link to the Data Digimon category. Do you want I should do that for all of them? Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  09:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)