Thread:KrytenKoro/@comment-35109290-20180716165043/@comment-134861-20190820150743

> unless you give us clear scans and /break down all of the kanji for us/

No, just the scans. We have several translators.

> I understand Wikia has rules but that's a little too extreme and controlling for a DIGIMON WIKIA.

...no, it's basic diligence to avoid citogenesis and fanon like the "Frontier True Enemy" from looking like it's legit.

> Even they use these sources for their information.

...yeah, because several of the editors (who we know personally) own these books and can translate them themselves. No one's relying on onkei's translations for this.

> You seem to be too busy to run this Wiki then, if you can't even quickly look over translations and the official books and confirm the information for yourself?

...I asked you to provide the scans. You're asking me to track down the translator, bug them for sources, and make *them* provide the scans.

> Which means the burden of "proving" this info falls on me.

...no shit. You're the one wanting to add info, ergo, you do the work to demonstrate the claim.

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Just to be clear, are you saying you have not actually seen the original material yourself, and you are solely basing your claims on what you read on the internet?

> I'd rather save my money, but it's extremely frustrating that this Wiki can't just update the sources on the ages that they're missing on the characters' direct pages.

It's extremely frustrating that we asked you for a pretty simple "can you show us the page of the book that you swear says this thing" and now you're throwing a tantrum about how we're asking you to (gasp!)...actually show that you know what the hell you're talking about, and aren't just reporting what a friend of a friend told you.

> You even have a page for this information right here.

...yes, because we have personally vetted and validated all that information. We did the exact thing for the info we added that we're asking you to do for the info you want to add.

> I'm sorry if I sound a little harsh too, but this is proving to be a constant problem for the fanbase because no one, especially those newer to the series who haven't picked up on all the timeline notes yet, can seem to understand the characters' ages at a glance.

You're completely out of line by getting snippy, and it completely undercuts your argument. You're asking us to trust the translation of a source, sight unseen, that you yourself have not even seen. For crap's sake, mistyping a number is the easiest bloody thing. You can mean to type 12 and accidentally type 13.

> this is proving to be a constant problem for the fanbase

I'm completely astounded that you don't seem to understand that misreporting what the sources say about the ages has been an even bigger problem in the fanbase, ever since its start.

> You'll realize reading upthread I first contacted about this situation in summer of 2018.

Yes. And you have completely failed to do even the bare minimum to provide any scan or photo or anything for people to factcheck what you're saying.

> It still has not been resolved, and I am losing my own patience on the matter,

Then get off your ass and find a photo or scan to get your claim validated. Or stop acting like a toddler. Pick one, I don't much care.

> as you are clearly unwilling to work something out that's actually reasonable for the Wikia and this fandom.

You're a hypocrite, and you can kindly leave. We asked you to provide a source for your claim -- the "reasonable" thing that every single encyclopedia, ever, does. Even if you don't see it in person because the editors work behind the scenes to do this work for you. We've continuously tried to work with you, doing everything we can to help you locate the single piece of verification that you need to get your edits posted. But we can't do 100% of the work for you, and so far you've spent a year throwing a tantrum, and frankly, it's been very tiring this whole time to try to walk you through understanding how basic fact-checking works.

You are acting like a caterwauling infant over a simple, basic request, and I have no patience for it. And now, to put the cherry on top, you're accusing us of laziness, stubbornness, and unreasonability.

I'm saying this as an individual, not as an admin, but please, kindly, fuck off if that's the attitude you're going to have. Just fuck right off into space.

> if the novels state joe's age is different to what the anime states, that would throw the validity of the novels themselves into question for the anime's timeline.

Marcus, this is correct. The novels are not canon to the anime. There are too many discrepancies, like Lillymon first appearing at ShogunGekomon's castle instead of the DarkTyrannomon battle.