Talk:Crests

Other appearances:
 * Courage:
 * ShineGreymon (tail)
 * WarGreymon (back/shield)
 * Flamedramon (back?)
 * Omnimon (Brave Shield Omega)
 * Friendship
 * Raidramon (chest)
 * Love:
 * Halsemon (head)
 * Sethmon (head)
 * Hope:
 * Knightmon (back)
 * Pegasusmon (chest)
 * Sagittarimon (between upper body and legs)
 * Seraphimon (chest)
 * Knowledge
 * Butterflymon (wings)
 * FlyBeemon (helmet)
 * Mothmon (wings, vaguely)
 * Honeybeemon (head)
 * Digmon (back)
 * Reliability:
 * Orcamon (chest)
 * Submarimon (underneath)
 * Light: (specifically, used as the symbol of the Tifaret, shared by the first 3)
 * Sakkakumon (central sphere)
 * Rosemon (Tifaret)
 * Rosemon Burst Mode (Tifaret)
 * Nefertimon (chest)
 * Miracles
 * Magnamon
 * Destiny
 * Rapidmon (Armor)
 * Courage-Friendship (half of each):
 * Omnimon (chest)

Does the GeoGrey Sword have Courage? Glorious  CHAOS!  03:17, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * The GeoGrey Sword IS the symbol of Courage in itself, though it also has a symbol of Courage as well, as shown below:


 * For ShineGreymon, while the design of its tail is certainly based on Courage, I think it would make this a lot more difficult if we start going that path, because how many things look like the Love symbol? I mean, I guess it would be worth mentioning that the design is based on it, since along with the Sword it does seem to be an obvious allusion. Though, there is also the fact that as a sun-based Digimon, there's always the possibility that it's simply supposed to be designed after the sun. Glorious  CHAOS!  17:26, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * For the GeoGrey sword, doesn't Courage have two rings and eight spikes? Glorious  CHAOS!  17:25, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, it strictly depends on one's point of view. However, if one looks at it your way, the GeoGrey Sword will effectively just be designed based on Courage, nothing much more. 22:12, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I guess that would be fair to say. I'd like it if we can keep that in a separate paragraph from the list of actual appearances, though. Glorious  CHAOS!  03:05, November 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay. I don't see why not. Perhaps we can say the same of ShineGreymon's tail too, in that sense. 12:31, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Zero Unit
Also, do we want to have a page for the Zero Unit symbol on Calumon and Guilmon's line? We have no idea what it means, and it's never actually mentioned, though it is named on the D-Ark. Glorious  CHAOS!  03:19, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * It was called the Zero Unit? Why wasn't this mentioned earlier somewhere? (Oh, and as a note, Sakkakumon had the Zero Unit symbol too)
 * But since it is technically variant of the Hazard symbol (it seems an inverted Hazard symbol to me), wouldn't it be more appropriate to have it as part of the said article, at least until what it actually is is actually clarified. 08:21, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * On the D-Ark toy, it is a named item which Qinglongmon will give you that allows you to digivolve Gallantmon to Crimson Mode. Glorious  CHAOS!  17:19, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Wait then. If the item itself was called the Zero Unit, why don't we just dub the symbol as the 'Zero symbol' (Digital Zero makes for an amusing name)? Makes it kind of weird to keep calling it the 'Zero Unit symbol' after all.
 * But shouldn't the apparent relationship between the two symbols be covered, to some extent? Maybe I'm just deluding myself but I believe that it would be too much of a coincidence for one symbol to be a complete inversion of another. There must be some significance between the two. Neither have truly been explained after all, with the Digital Hazard's information gleamed only through vague hints in the profiles of some Digimon. Thus, I think that creating a new article for the Zero is irrelevant, as its place is with the Hazard. Still, this is just my opinion. 22:12, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Discussing it on the Digital Hazard page is a good idea, but if we have to, I would change its name to the "Zero Unit symbol". It appears as Bo-694 too. Glorious  CHAOS!  03:04, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. I didn't know it appeared on a card too. What does the card say about it? 12:31, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Just some stuff along the lines of "Discard one Grani to digivolve to a Digimon with "Crimson" in its name." Then some rules about it. Glorious  CHAOS!  16:06, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the Crest of Light is used as the Tiferet throughout Digimon, the symbol of beauty. It's even on the correct sphere on Sakkakumon. The Zero Unit, however, is on the Keter, or "Crown" sphere.
 * "The first Sephirah is called the Crown, since a crown is worn above the head. The Crown therefore refers to things that are above the mind's abilities of comprehension."
 * Especially because the Zero Unit only ever appears on the (fore)head, it seems as if this is the literal use for it. Glorious  CHAOS!  18:18, November 20, 2009 (UTC)