User talk:KrytenKoro

Manga and Internet Archive
I am going to go create detailed character pages for the V-Tamer, D-Cyber, and Next manga, but I wanted to ask a question. Can I take cropped versions of scans in order to properly depict the characters of the manga, or should I use generic species pictures?

Also, I just was there, but the Internet Archive: Wayback Machine has saved a startling amount of cards/pictures I thought were lost from The Card Album. Not everything is there, but what was saved is a relief to find. Once I have time, I'm going to go through it and back up whatever they have, or maybe upload them all to photobucket for easier access. Is that a good idea? Lanate 02:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was going to fix the V-Tamer page to be more like the List of characters in Digimon Adventure page, and create similar ones for the other two manga. I guess I'll go grab the cards scans.


 * When I went to the Card Menu, most of the latter ones still worked; however, much of the older cards, from say the first booster, were down. The Internet Wayback Machine has some of those saved.  Unless you're referring to another site or my computer's malfunctioning.  Lanate 07:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll get to it, but I found another site: Gomamon2000's Digimon Card Database that has a lot, and Wikimon's got some of the older cards as well. At the moment, I'm playing Digimon Tamers: Digimon Medley over again and getting all the attacks and digimon appearances from it.  I can't add much to the story, as I don't know Japanese, but I'll make sure to at least reason some of it out.  Lanate 02:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Card infoboxes
Sorry I'm being a bit slow on the infoboxes! Anyways, I was about to start working on them again and I got to thinking.. Should we use an infobox system, or something similar? Basically, I'm thinking that most of the content is going to be in the infobox, so maybe we should make it a normal-box.. as in, it would stretch the width of the article, rather than being just at the right hand side. I'm not sure how much content would be left for the "body" of the article, and since it's not a normal article/page, it might be a good idea. Then again, I'm not very familiar with the cards and this level of detail. Just an idea. Cheers. -- Ned Scott 06:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Project Channel
Oh, that is one thing for sure. Japanese is not my thing... yet... I think. But I can do the other kinds of stuff, like what you mentioned, and perhaps even reupload all the images to appropriate names and the like. For the games part... would you mind if I referred to an FAQ Walkthrough much? - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 15:09, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The good thing is, I have personally tested some of them, so they would be rather reliable. As for it being Japanese translated... well, that wouldn't be much of a problem either. - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 06:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I swear, I know of an FAQ that already has it all... But I will do as you ask, and I will even be able to update the Quests page (at some point in time), seeing how I will be playing Dawn again to double check, as I wanted to record the script anyway. - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 15:08, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't say I agree, because I would be lying if I did. I found it to be quite useful... But I have found some English ones. Sad to say, that are not as detailed as his. I would very much like to walk up to the guy and shake his hand. The others I found are only a mere fraction of what his is... some of them only focus on the storyline, and not the full game even. - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 15:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I see what you mean... in everything (I think). Okay, I will be able to fill some of the spaces, but I think that the chances of me being able to do too many attacks is rather slim. I may instead make screenshots of the Tamer Info galleries instead of typing it all out, but the quality is low, so I am still thinking about it. But I really think that I have to take it one step at the time, maybe finish the quests first or something like that. My hands are already full with a whole lot of other things, so speed is definitely not on my side. - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 16:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I could do that. I'll just open a Photobucket account. - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 17:24, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Screenshots
Huh? Which map? Do you mean Transfield?

I believe I said before, I use an emulator really, so that is how I obtain most (all actually) of my screenshots. As for sprites... well, that I am not too sure. But technically it should be possible. It simply depends on what kind you want I suppose. No guarantees though. - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 07:47, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I can do that. Just email me your email and I'll send the pictures over when I have them made (in .png format of course). Just one question, you won't mind if they overlap, would you? - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 16:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Download the screenshots from here. I did it this way so that I can maintain what little quality the shots have. Also, I haven't included Transfield yet, seeing how I must complete the Gaia Origin Challenge to take away the 'quest' thing. For now, I hope this will suffice. I expect to be able to get the last few shots by tomorrow or so. - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 13:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm... it is said that WIFI is possible for my emulator, but I have not tried it before. I'll try to get to a Wifi spot to check it out. In the meantime, why not give me your friendcode? - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 11:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * My bad, I have checked around and found out that it is currently impossible to use WIFI. - Digi9346 - Today, the Chosen shall fall. Tomorrow, the world... 11:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I downloaded Dusk and found a save file that some guy uploaded. I used it to get these: Download I hope I got what you needed.

Fanfic ideas
Rook Tenndy=Ryuuga Tennite Havoc Tenndy=Hebiga Tennite

Olympus Twelve Royal Knights Egyptian Gods Demon Lords

Arc 1: Intro, Marsmon Arc 2: Warring gods Arc 3: The soulless armies Arc 4: Endgame

Fan fiction
Erm, I have a bad history with writing other peoples' stories. I have too many of my own thoughts on who to focus on and how to characterize that I end up clashing with the original person's ideas. That's why I'm usually resolved on not writing for people. I can help write it, but I won't write it myself, as collaboration efforts with me either blow up in our faces or disappear into nothing.

Also, you can use Akashicmon and Tempusmon, but all the main story branches I have with them either have them dead (Power and Control) or no longer accessible (Legacy), so I'm not sure how it'll work for you. Lanate (talk) 21:48, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You can use whichever one that you wish. Just remember that Akashicmon's essentially Bokomon in his Mega form, and Tempusmon as Neemon's.  Lanate (talk) 22:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, maybe I can help write your fic. This is because I am a person who is not very creative... kinda like the Covenant, more imitative than innovative. My ideas for my fic came from all the little stuff all over the place stuffed together. Give me an idea and I think I may be able to give it some life... I think. Furthermore, I'm not such a bad writer... only the readers know that though. Besides, I spend half my time doing my own fics. Yours should not be much of a problem in my updating schedule either. But it is up to you though. - Digi9346 - Welcome to the end of the world... 10:29, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

V-Tamer Pictures
Before I screw up any naming schemes when I add more pictures for the List of characters in Digimon Adventure V-Tamer 01 page, how should I name them? Lanate (talk) 22:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Um, you can look at the earliest part of the List of characters in Digimon Adventure V-Tamer 01 for example. What should I have named, say, the Gon images? Lanate (talk) 11:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll keep that in mind for future reference.


 * And you know what's creepy? I took almost the exact same shot as the Bio did for Starmon.  Lanate (talk) 16:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes
I just remembered when you deleted the other User admin template. Weren't we supposed to make more of those and apply them? Maybe we should add this to the list of things to do as well. - Digi9346 - Welcome to the end of the world... 17:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Infoboxes
Would it be bad coding to have some way of triggering if the Category functions would be used or not? Like, a parameter that wouldn't be displayed which would define whether or not it would add categories or not? That way, for pages like Gallantmon, we could trigger it on for Gallantmon and off for Gallantmon Crimson Mode and Gallantmon X. We'd have to continue to add categories to redirects though.

Um, no, wait, that'd still have us going through each species article, wouldn't it?

I think there does need to be some way of differentiating the coding with multiple species on the same page. Like the MegaKabuterimons; Red is only Vaccine but Blue is both Vaccine and Data (though the Vaccine may have been retconned, there's still record of its Data-ness). It might be nitpicky, but MegaKabuterimon (Red) doesn't belong in the Data category. Lanate (talk) 05:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Card Namespace
You still looking for that helper? Because I think I found her. - Digi9346 - Welcome to the end of the world... 06:41, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

New Namespaces
We have received your request, but there is some addition information we need before they can be setup. We need to know if you want either of these namespaces to be marked as "Content" namespaces. By default, only the "main" namespace (NS:0) is counted into as content. Content namespaces are counted into your Article count. We also need to know if you would like either of these namespaces to be marked as able to be searched by default for new/anon users. And lastly, do you want subpages turned ON for either namespace? Please reply here on this page in this section, and once I have the answers, I'll see about getting the namespaces made. --Uberfuzzy 13:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * We do want both namespaces to count as real content, and we do want them searchable by default. I'm not sure what you mean by turning subpages on, though. Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day.  But set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.  14:17, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes to the subpages too :) -- Ned Scott 21:21, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, everything looks in order, If any problems popup, let me a talkpage message, or send another email in, make sure to mention that Uberfuzzy helped you last time, so they know who to forward it to. --Uberfuzzy 16:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

One question, should we start moving the Fan fiction pages to the new Fan namespace? - Digi9346 - Welcome to the end of the world... 11:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * We can, though really all that would change is that all the pages have "Fan:" in front of them now, and the base redirects wouldn't need the "Fan fiction/" bit in front of them. If we want to remove all the "Fan fiction/" bits, I guess we could, but I'd rather see what everyone thinks first. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  14:15, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

my stuff
i know that you are one of those who edit my stuff about Gaiamon and Galacticmon i admit that Galaxmon doesn't exist but few people talked about it and gave me the idea, i played DW.3 almost whole holiday and didn't spend much time with my family. and studying pictures and find exactly the size of a digimon is pretty hard job, so don't edit it as for all other on this site.

Cards
Sorry I haven't been helping out. ^^; My roommate gave me a cold, so I haven't been up to thinking. I did manage to finally finish the List of characters in Digimon Adventure V-Tamer 01 page as well as move the Digi-Egg Chart.

Oh, did you know that Yggdrasil (the one at the end of Savers and in Next) counts as a Mega? That means it IS a Digimon. =P Lanate (talk) 02:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * There was a Program card of Yggdrasil. But Yggdrasil's Next bio lists it as a Mega.  Lanate (talk) 03:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, the Omnimon page is the best I can do for now. You may need to fill in some spaces of things that I'm not sure of (I'm slightly colourblind) and the part about the digit for the special Omnimon card. I'll try to sneak in a few edits every now and then, but I'm not that hopeful... - Digi9346 - Welcome to the end of the world... 16:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Just to ask, should we create redirects for the Card namespace redirecting the Japanese names (like Omegamon) to their articles (Omnimon)? - Digi9346 - Welcome to the end of the world... 09:06, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Another question. What do we do about the Item and Modify cards? Do we create a page and simply dump them all there? - Digi9346 - Welcome to the end of the world... 08:37, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, thanks for the link to the translator site. And also thanks for the link to the card terminal. It really helps. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 06:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

But actually, if the Windows search is slow and takes hours, you should use the index (the same one you gave me) and use Ctrl+F instead to search out the cards and then access them there. It will be a lot faster that way. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 07:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

"Level 7"
According to the Digimon Mini, TyrantKabuterimon, Lucemon Satan Mode, and Omegamon are all Level 7 Digimon.

I can't add my fansite to the fansite page.
I can't add www dot dfsf dot 110mb dot com to fansite list

it said spam filter and also our ringsite www dot dfsf dot 110mb dot com/gate

can you take a look at them? Thank you.

Diromon
Have you see Diromon article? It is so....Is the author angry? And what about Fan fiction/Digimon Achiever/Diromon. Does he/she know? The Darkness is My Light, the Thunder Fang, My Cannon 01:03, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Digimon Achiever is created by Digimon 298. But Diromon, Gorimon and Dragorimon are not create by Digimon 298. Why they all link to Digimon Achiever? The Darkness is My Light, the Thunder Fang, My Cannon 01:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about it. I didn't get angry but just suprise. Digi9346 already helped me to move them. The Darkness is My Light, the Thunder Fang, My Cannon 03:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Please see this. The Darkness is My Light, the Thunder Fang, My Cannon 04:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry I haven't been around as much. Do you still want help with the cards or are Digi9346 and you good enough for now? I was just about to start working on Digimon Next, but if there's something else that should be done first, can you tell me? Lanate (talk) 06:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

D-Arc Number
ディーアークナンバー

Also, replace 『』 with 「」?

Agumon
When I was looking at the RAWs in preparation for making scans for the List of characters in Digimon Next, I saw that Tsurugi's Agumon was classified as a Dinosaur, something Digimon Himitsu got wrong. That, and his three fingers, led me to believe that it was actually the 2006 anime without the bracers, but I was mainly basing it off of the Dinosaur classification. Lanate (talk) 08:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

gif
I hear you. I'll try my best to get .gif ones when they are available. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 09:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It's your call. You know my email. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 10:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Pitimon/Pitchmon
Quick question; why was this reverted back on the List of chosen Digimon page? I thought that it was Pitchmon, considering that's what the species page now is. Lanate (talk) 03:56, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

About that first thing you said in miscellaneous I used to think how would we know what exist how do iKnow if I exist i thought maybe Im the only one here or Im a dream that doesn't end

Tabs
I saw you were doing some stuff with a tabbed interface. I don't know much about javascript, but I saw that there was a "tabs" extension that can be installed by request, listed on http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Extensions, and explained on http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/wikia-l/2007-August/001719.html. Not sure if that helps, but I thought I would mention it. Cheers. -- Ned Scott 04:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Correction, I just looked at the page again and it says these are pre-installed.. I'll give it a shot in a moment. -- Ned Scott 05:00, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey cool, it works. The example code is on http://toys.wikia.com/wiki/TabViewTest and I gave it a try on User:Ned Scott/sandbox. -- Ned Scott 05:04, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
Please see this. The Darkness is My Light, the Thunder Fang, My Cannon 11:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Do 1 and 2 need revert? The Darkness is My Light, the Thunder Fang, My Cannon 14:00, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: IP
Unfortunately, I don't think there's anything we can do. Very few of them warrant anything more than a stern warning about keeping speculation and, well, fan-based information off of mainspace. Unless it truly goes into vandalism, we can't block.

On a side note, sorry I haven't been on much. :/ End of the semester's kicking my ass. Lanate (talk) 21:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Wanted
Okay, question. For the articles of the episodes, do we want to do both the Japanese version and the dub, using fansubs to help? Do we also want to highlight the content that was cut in the dub? Furthermore, I wanted to ask whether I should move all the Couplings pages to the Fan namespace, seeing how it is technically not an official article anyways. Perhaps also move the article on the List of fansubs and the Fansites page there as well. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 20:04, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete
Go ahead to delete the page I labeled for deletion. Sorry for adding more redundant works because I unable to do so. I will restart them all because there were too many redirects till I confuse. The Darkness is My Light, the Thunder Fang, My Cannon 10:06, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete this. I already angry with those annoying vandals. The Darkness is My Light, the Thunder Fang, My Cannon 07:28, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Trailmon
I revamped the Trailmon page in preparation for my Digimon Next edits, but it lead me to wondering&mdash;what is the proper name for the Trailmon family? I know that each can be called Trailmon, but how do you accurate document their "names", like Worm or Kettle? I mean, I had physical copies for C-89 and Sentou Busou models to work off of, but there's no official media for the rest&mdash;I ended up trusting the Japanese wikipedia's seiyuu credit format, which mirrored C-89's for the most part. Beyond that, I also haven't figured out the proper form of their English names. Is it really Name the Trailmon? Before I started making redirects for individual entries, I wanted to double check. Lanate (talk) 06:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Lyrics
Can this be used in Digimon songs? The Darkness is My Light, the Thunder Fang, My Cannon 09:04, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: New format
I have a few comments and queries in reply to your message. Firstly, I had a look at that tfwiki link you gave me, and realised that none of the synopses written for Digimon Adventure episodes are nearly as long as those on tfwiki, meaning that placing images throughout the synopsis could be a problem. Secondly, I was wondering what the new format for Digivolutions would look like (as I'll probably end up writing a lot of them), and how I should go about choosing the right quotes from an episode (should I be focusing on humour, key points in the story, etc?). Oh, and lastly, do you want me to start altering other episodes with the same format shown in "And So It Begins..."? THB 11:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Fan...section...thingy.
I could, maybe. Keep in mind that I'm very bad at guessing what the English dialogue is, having boycotted it one year ago, and that my time is limited so that I'll only be able to check it once in a while and make minor edits. Also, I can't do anything much for Savers, or Adventure 02 episodes 22-50, or the Tamers Japanese original. I'll try my hand at Couplings and maybe then move onto the entire section. Only dead fish go with the flow. Only dead fish go with the flow. 03:27, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
What is this huh? The Darkness is My Light, the Thunder Fang, My Cannon 14:06, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Digimon Next
At the moment, I'm very slowly working my way through Digimon Next. I'm going through each chapter, adding it to the newly created List of Digimon Next chapters, updating each entry in List of characters in Digimon Next, and uploading appropriate scans. I hope that it makes up for the mass amount of time I was, well, not here. ^^; Lanate (talk) 05:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I just got to the double page spread picture in Digimon Next that I think I completely ignored in my original reading. Now that I look at it again, IT'S A GIANT HOMAGE TO THE ANIME SERIES!


 * Numemon
 * Terriermon (Jianliang/Wallace)
 * Kapurimon (Hirokazu)
 * Sukamon and Chuumon (Adventure)
 * Wormmon (Ken)
 * Elecmon (Adventure)
 * Poyomon (Takeru or Frontier first episode)
 * Kamemon (Yushima... HE HAS A TEA CUP!)
 * Jijimon and Babamon (Tamers)
 * Nanimon (Adventure)
 * Starmon (Adventure/Frontier)
 * Vademon (Adventure)
 * Wizardmon and Gatomon (WIZARDMON IS HOLDING GATOMON! <3)
 * Candlemon (Frontier)
 * Neemon (Frontier)
 * Gotsumon/Meteormon (Frontier/Savers)
 * Garurumon (Yamato)
 * Giromon (Adventure)
 * Digmon (Iori)
 * Growlmon (Takato)
 * Zudomon (Jyou)
 * Kabuterimon (Koushirou)
 * Togemon and Lillymon (Mimi)
 * Kuramon (Diablomon)
 * Angemon and Angewomon (Takeru and Hikari)
 * Garudamon (Sora)
 * Bakemon (Adventure/02)
 * Flamedramon (Daisuke)
 * Kudamon (Satsuma)
 * Frigimon (Ikuto's mommy)
 * Shakkoumon (Takeru/Iori)
 * Toucanmon (Frontier)
 * Thunderballmon (Adventure 02)
 * Hawkmon (Miyako)
 * MetalGreymon (Taichi)
 * BanchoLeomon (Savers)
 * Rosemon (Yoshino)
 * Pandamon (Frontier)
 * Sakuyamon and Justimon (Ruki and Ryo)
 * Volcamon (Frontier)
 * Blossomon (Adventure/02)
 * Whamon (Adventure)
 * Gesomon (Adventure)
 * Gryphonmon (Frontier)
 * Swanmon (Frontier)


 * I think I just had a fangasm. Adventure/02/Tamers all have their Chosen represented, and most of Savers to boot (only missing some Chessmon), added to the fact that all of the original seven Rookies appeared on the previous page (save for the original Agumon) and a Lalamon too for the Gaomon/Agumon/Lalamon/Peckmon round out...  I just had to share.


 * And the next page has even more! <3 Lanate (talk) 02:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Digimon D-Cyber
Yep, I realize that they're going to be in Chinese. I know some, and my mom knows far more. For the most part, I just want the pictures, names, and to double check terminology. Lanate (talk) 17:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
I've given you Bureaucrat status, which will allow you to grant future admins and give rollback. Not that I don't mind doing it myself, but I figure it would be more convenient this way :) -- Ned Scott 20:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

User Talk
Don't some unregistered user (maybe) share the same IP? Or I just made an unnecessary move. Sorry for that.

Please
Can you please make me an admin. I want to help the articles about Digimon Data Squad with my friend Generalgrievous112 (who you could please make an admin as well). So please make me an admin, I beg you--Ventress112 02:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

--Generalgrievous112 01:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

hello
would you like to help me write articles about the dats episodes. and if i finsh all of them, do you think i could be an admin? --Generalgrievous112 01:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Digivolution Infobox
I was just wondering how much progress you've made with the digivolution infobox for the episode pages. I'd volunteer to do it all myself, except I don't have a clue of how to make a decent infobox. THB 23:14, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I noticed that digivolution table you made. Is that format ready to start using on other episode pages, or do you still need to make some adjustments to it? I just want to make sure I don't edit every other page using the wrong format. By the way, I adjusted the table slightly by adding pictures and splitting it into two columns - I hope that's okay. THB 20:25, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Update: By the way, I've been meaning to ask - when it comes to digivolutions, how should I treat those digivolutions which aren't shown but have obviously taken place within the episode? THB 21:37, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

ChibiKiwimon and KoDokugumon
I found ChibiKiwimon's name in official media, but I swear I can't find KoDokugumon anywhere but on wikis. I went over Dokugumon's first appearance, but I can't find a mention of KoDokugumon anywhere. Lanate (talk) 05:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

WP: NPA
--Generalgrievous112 17:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)User:Ventress112 has directly attacked me through her userpage. Please block her.

Excuse me
Krytenkoro I was not the one doing that on Grievous's page, that was my very immature brother, If you wan't proof go to Grievous's talk page and see that In the section "Sorry" it says ''Sorry! it was so hard to resist i Mean like DNA full charge overload when I changed it to but full charge overload it was hilarious.'' wikiguy123, it says Wikiguy123, that's my brother's username,(He hadn't discovered the signature button) I told him to make his own account because by being mean on my account I might get banned. Now Grievous wants to get back at me so he's editing all the wikis I subscribe to. I didn't do that, Wikiguy did.--Ventress112 17:35, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

you might be lying. You might've made wikiguy as an excuse.--208.124.140.198 17:40, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

If I'm lying then why does it say Wikiguy on your page (Kryten, 208.123.140.198 is one of his computer's IP addresses) (I don't know which) and check the date of Wikiguy's creation, it is way before these mesages.AND see the kinds of articles that both of them are working on in their contribs (Both did the Digimon data squad series)ANd in the section "Conduct" it says that wikiguy made an account.

Please check the history of our pages mine has only my username on it (I wouldn't write bad things about myself)(Hacker) and his actually has my username (which my rude brother was using).--Ventress112 17:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

If you check the history of my other pages on the: Batman, Indiana jones, Bakugan, LEGO batman, LEGO, LEGO star wars, LEGO indiana jones, spectrobes and Webkinz, you'll see that he is harrasing me.--Ventress112 18:23, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't control what happens on other wiki's, but I'm tired of this crap here. If either of you makes one more edit to the other's userpage, you will be blocked. GG, Ventress seems to have given a good reason for her account's behavior; whether she is telling the truth or not, she's not vandalizing your page anymore, so knock it the hell off. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  18:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

New Category
This might seem insane/stupid, but should we give the species articles their own category and use that to replace the List of Digimon which is extremely hard to format and update?

Also, do you mind if I edit the D-Reaper Infobox to turn it into a Digital Lifeform Infobox so I can use it on NEO and the Guardians from Digimon World 2? Lanate (talk) 21:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Videos
I had a similar discussion with User:Ned Scott before uploading anything. The videos are hosted on YouTube, and just embedded here. I think that any legal burden would be placed on them. Images/videos are copyrighted, and there's nothing we can do about that. The Fair use argument could stand as I highly doubt that these recaps have any impact on sales/profit, and the recaps are just a (small) part of the final product. So I think they're okay, and Ned gave the idea the green light, but then again, I'm basically just rephrasing his words.

In any case, the moment I do anything that seems out of bounds/going too far, let me know and I'll tone it down/delete the problem. All I'm doing is taking the first :30 odd sec or so from the next episode and uploading it on YouTube and embedding it here. I understand your concern and share it too. Again, if anything seems like too much, let me know. I appreciate the input.

Regards, --Rad140 22:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Supernatural
I don't know what it is about Supernatural; there's just something I don't like about it. I have a bunch of female friends who watch the show to drool over those two brother characters (that could be a very good reason why i don't watch it) I've seen about 1/2 the first season and bits and parts of the others. I'm a fan of sci-fi and fantasy and such, but not that show for some reason.

I'm not a fan of the acting in that show or some of the situations I've seen. It's not the suspension of disbelief that's bothering me (I do watch 24, after all. Jack Bauer is basically a super-hero/minor-god) but the way characters have acted in situations. I also find it a tad too predictable.

I don't hate or really dislike the show, I'm just not a fan. Sorry. But I know that people have different opinions, so I'm glad you enjoy it. Sorry! Don't hate me too much ;) --Rad140 00:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * This is why I think we need a forum of some sort! A place to discuss off-topic things like this, and it would be a lot quicker/easier to keep track of topics/ideas, instead of searching through the Digimon Wiki Discussion page, and trying to follow through talk pages, etc. I mean many other wikis, like the 24 wiki and Fallout wiki all have them, and they seem to be better off.  Maybe it's the logical next step?--Rad140 00:06, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Gomamon's
Gomamon's taking down his site apparently. Do you want me to strip all the card images before it goes away? It'll take me a while, but I can do it. Lanate (talk) 17:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I got them all. I think I got, from Vandemon and Gomamon, as best as can be complete set for Digital Monster Card Game.  Gomamon only had Evolve.1 for Alpha, but I took those as well and left them in there.  I didn't get a chance to name them like you did, 'cause that's like 2000+ cards, but there's all organized by card code. Lanate (talk) 05:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * There's a link to the MegaUpload on the Card Wiki's main page. At the very least, Vandemon's page has thumb views of all the cards so we can figure out what goes where. Lanate (talk) 16:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Techniques
I've already started correcting techniques according to the analysers themselves. Just one question - should I be writing the original Japanese name for each technique, or should I write the English equivalent? For example, with Myotismon, do I write 'Bloody Stream' (Japanese) or 'Crimson Lightning' (English)? THB 13:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Re:Infobox
Hells yeah. That's great. Lanate (talk) 06:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

KORIKAKUMON/BEETLEMON
Hi. I'm Yuste, the guy that has been putting a "twin attack" called Thunder Bomber Avalanche Axes in Beetlemon's and Korikakumon's pages. I know that "Twin Attack" is not the correct denomination, but that attack isn't a fan fiction, it appeared in the episode 33 of Digimon Frontier, "Ne'er the Twins Shall Meet". Please don't delete it just because "twin attack" is not the correct denomination. Thank you! Yuste

burn/rip/slash/slash/kill/maim/pillage
What's with all the burning/ripping/slashing/slashing/killing/maiming/pillaging today?--Rad140 01:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: Oh no, I don't have a problem with it, I actually think it's quite funny. I was just wondering what it was for.

On the other hand, yeah, what can you do? I guess the best thing to do is to fix it, ignore it and go back to working on the Wiki. The ppl. who spend their time doing such things are usually just sad, immature people with nothing better to do. (in that case, burn rip slash slash kill maim pillage!) --Rad140 02:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Digimon Movie Pages
I noticed that none of the Digimon movies have pages of their own, and thought it might be a good idea to make at least some of them, based on the episode page format. That way, information such as digivolutions, dubbing changes, references, trivia, etc. can be displayed clearly, rather than simply part of some long paragraph on another page. Of course, anything that's not necessary, like the digimon analyser, can be taken out. What do you think? THB 20:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

What's wrong with the poor Bandai images?
Someone seems to be removing all instances of Bandai images from the species articles, and it's annoying me. It's technically not wrong, but I'd still rather have a diversity of images on the site. Do you have any ideas on a response? Lanate (talk) 17:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: Black Digimon
I found those templates a little unwieldy in the end.

By my check, the Digimon Story games actually did use the name BlackAgumon not Agumon (Black) like it did for a lot of things, while there's no more instances of WarGreymon (Black) any longer, which were limited to cards for the most part except Digimon Battle Spirit, who uses Agumon (Black) (or just Agumon) so it's implied to use WarGreymon (Black) not BlackWarGreymon. Digimon Rumble Arena 2's official Japanese website uses the Black- names for all the Digimon inside, which is why they got species articles, and Digimon World 3 had actual Black- Digimon like BlackSeraphimon and BlackImperialdramon as far as I found. Digimon Championship used BlackRapidmon and BlackWarGreymon like the cards, but the rest of them were like MetalGarurumon (Black). Actually, it was closer to MetalGarurumon (Virus), but basically I worked along those lines for now.

Hm, now that I think about it, should all those (Black) be (Virus)? That might work better actually. Lanate (talk) 23:42, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Was it really a name change? Because recent cards still have Agumon (Black), don't they?


 * The only one I'm not 100% sure of is Digimon World 3 and their Blacks. I know in English they're Black, but I thought that the originals also have the Black- prefix.


 * I'm still holding out on my original intent of keeping names separate. I might concede to merging ShadowSeraphimon and BlackSeraphimon on the same page... say, like what was done with Antylamon, but I stand by my original reasoning; different names, different articles.  Lanate (talk) 07:17, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * But it is separate. I made sure to double check what instances were "WarGreymon (Black/Virus)" and what instances were "BlackWarGreymon".  The only appearance that WarGreymon (Black) ever made was in Digimon Battle Spirit, where it digivolved from Agumon (Black), though it is debatable as to whether it was WarGreymon (Black) or BlackWarGreymon.


 * Arrgh, these Black- digimon are annoying.


 * Part of me is like, well, I guess we could count them as name changes. And part of me stands firm on the differentiation made between the Black prefix and the (Black).  I guess it comes down to: should we consider them the same Digimon or not?  I don't, though I might be swayed considering images, but if you do, we can have someone else vote on the issue and then go whichever way they say.


 * And there's a part of me that's stubborn because I've basically been scrounging around the net for the Japanese names to find those differences in the first place. =P  Lanate (talk) 07:53, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

How about this: Merge any instances I split onto the separate article (BlackAgumon/BlackGabumon) and henceforth ignore and difference between Black- and (Black/Virus)? It's kinda pissing me off and might be more annoying than it's worth. Lanate (talk) 00:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

rvv
Hi, Want to put a block/ban/kick in the face/or something on 98.163.123.250? Take a look at the "contributions" he was doing last night, which includes my talk page and yours? I guess I now know what you mean by killing/burning/ripping/slashing/slashing/maiming.--Rad140 00:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I know, it's unforgivable, right?--Rad140 15:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Evolutions
Alright, thanks... I didn't know that. Wait, where didn't I sign my post? Usually I'm pretty good about doing that.--Rad140 15:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

"Digimon Dimension Tamers"
96.239.232.243 (talk) keeps adding "info" regarding something called "Digimon Dimension Tamers".. just double-checking, but I'm pretty sure this doesn't exist.--Rad140 17:06, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Fourm
Dunno if you've seen this, but there's an article on Help Wikia about setting up forums that might be useful: http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Wiki-style_forum_set_up --Rad140 20:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Protect me!
Sorry to be taking up even more space on your talk page, but would you mind protecting/stop people from changing the Video:DA episode 1 recap all the time? Honestly, it's been fine since I've first uploaded it, and it's starting to get a little ridiculous.--Rad140 22:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to see that it's the video is so popular with the anon's again... would you mind fully protecting it? or something? I don't exactly know what more can be done. --Rad140 00:13, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Welcome message
Hi, Kryten! I saw that you disabled the new welcome tool on this wiki, and the e-mail that you wrote to community@wikia about it. I understand your reluctance to have your name signed to the welcome messages. Still, I'd like to see if there's a way we can still turn the welcome tool on for this wiki. There are tons of new people coming to this wiki all the time, and if they don't get any message, then they can just feel ignored and drift away.

We can set the welcome tool to leave a particular person's signature -- I'll put my own name, if you want. Let me know what you're thinking about it, okay? -- Danny (talk ) 03:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll be willing to put my own name, if you want. I don't mind being the automated welcome message.  Lanate (talk) 03:04, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem I have with it is that 90% of the welcome messages are to people that we have to revert and clean up after, and it's got to be confusing for them that I say "Thanks for your edit, good job!", and then when they go to see their edit, it's been erased. Also, it makes it somewhat more difficult to patrol Recent Changes, since we have a bout fifteen new pages popping up every few hours. If we've got to have something welcoming them (besides just having one of the admins do it conscientiously), I'd rather it be sign it's own name.


 * 'course, if Lanate wants to have his name be the signature, more power to him. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  03:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, I made a couple changes -- I switched User:Wikia to a bot, so it won't show up in Recent changes. I also switched Lanate to sign all the messages.


 * For the concern about welcoming people that we need to clean up after... I think that's just the nature of working on wikis, that sometimes new people need to be shown the correct way to do things. So if you're going to revert somebody's edit, then you might as well say hi to them first. If you just revert with no hello, then they might feel like you don't want them around. You know what I mean? -- Danny (talk ) 20:48, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not that I don't want to welcome them (unless they're purposely vandalizing), it's that I think it would be odd to congratulate them for the edit when it is immediately removed. I think it would be better to have a welcome message that asked them to read the manual of style, but not thank for the edit. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  03:03, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, you guys can feel free to edit MediaWiki:Welcome-message-user and MediaWiki:Welcome-message-anon, and tweak it any way you like.


 * My way of looking at the "thank you" is that really we're thanking them for participating. A person's first edit is important -- they took the time to hit the edit button and try to help. Even if it turns out that they didn't do it exactly right, we're still happy that they took that first step, and we hope they stay and learn more. So that's what we're thanking them for. -- Danny (talk ) 05:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Character Songs
Just to ask. I have found uploaded videos of practically all of the character songs and wonder if we should make a section in the wiki just for them, so that people can at least view the songs if they want to. I found that trying to find any kind of song related to Digimon and view them is extremely hard, and the character songs are virtually non-existent unless I search for them very, very specifically.

So what do you think? - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 14:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Great... and nice avatar by the way...
 * One more thing. How do you upload a video again? - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 08:11, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Just to ask. Should I use the original romanised name of the songs or should I use the translated one or both when I name the videos?
 * And also, should I add the CD dramas as well? Preferably the ones subbed? - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 07:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for helping me with my pages.StinkomanFan 19:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Episode Template
Hiya, I dunno if one already exists, but I've started putting together an episode template that anyone should be able to fill out. I know THB likes to handle the episode stuff, but many episodes seem to be really hurting, so if we could get some new users or bored people on those would be awesome.--Rad140 00:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

re: wanted
Wouldn't that be awfully similar to a list of stub pages that need work anyway? --Rad140 01:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC) Would you mind directing me specifically to the Digimon Wiki page and the Kingdom Hearts Wiki pages you're talking about? To be honest, I can't exactly find them. Would be much appreciated! --Rad140 01:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

So, basically, we need a list on the main page (and a link to a larger one) of specific articles (stubs and new articles) that need to be created/need some extra editing love...am i right?--Rad140 01:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking about taking the best of the stubs/wanted pages (which needs to be cleaned up...there are a lot of pages we're never going to have, like "Ghost" and "Audiotape" <---delete the references or source to wikipedia), and then categorize them under Category:Articles in Need of improvement or something similar, and post this list all over the wiki, and on the front page. Sound good? (Dont expect this quickly though... i have the busiest week this week)

Opinions needed
I need opinions on one of my crazy ideas here --Rad140 20:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

DirectX
This is a spam article. D'you mind getting rid of it 'Kay? Thanks.--Digimon: The Musical! Coming whenever I feel like it. 00:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Venmon
Leave the redirects which can possibly make sense. Digidex I think was a fan-term related to the Pokedex, but I have to get back to you on that. Lanate (talk) 06:34, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Check it out
Hey Krytenkoro my name is BlazeCannon15 yyou know that I like your userpage check out mine

Old featured articles
I've been looking into the history of the main page and found some old featured articles should I add them? Here's an example: http://digimon.wikia.com/index.php?title=Digimon_Wiki&direction=next&oldid=1558 --Digimon: The Musical! Coming whenever I feel like it. 02:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Video Vandalism
Since Wikia has the courtesy of forgetting security measures for reverting, I believe there is little we can do. Fortunately, all the videos are currently just single revisions, so there is no need to worry about any real damage so long as semi-protecting or fully protecting prevents any new uploads. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 15:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Krytenkoro
Hello Kryten
 * ...Glorious Chaos? Lanate (talk) 09:05, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Gallantmon
Someone really did a number on Gallantmon's page--Digimon: The Musical! Coming whenever I feel like it. 15:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Character Pages
These a topic at the Forum (here) that I'd like input on, if you don't mind. Lanate (talk) 21:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Kyle33860
It doesn't seem like he's actually vandalizing the wiki itself (at worst, edits with bad info, but nothing purposeful), but the incomprehensible paranoid tantrum he's having on the user pages is really getting intolerable. Since he's not a vandal, I don't want to block him, but I'm not sure what really to do about him. Thoughts? Golf lima oscar romeo india oscar uniform sierra  Charlie Hotel Alpha Oscar Sierra!  21:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I dunno, if you want my opinion on this or not, but the whole split-personality thing is concerning me. On one hand, it seems like he is trying to undo anything off-putting he's said, but just his paranoid behaviour towards anyone else who's trying to help is definitely off putting, to say the least. Maybe he's on a shared computer and forgetting to sign off, and someone else is messing with him? I'd like to see what he says before we consider doing anything.  If it's just a misunderstanding and he's willing to help, then we should welcome him, but if not... i dunno if banning is acceptable in this situation or not. I think talking to him and a one-last-warning are in place first though.  Rad140  Because I think this is about him and I want us to be prepared.  22:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * At this point, I don't particularly care about him; he lost my interest as anything more than someone to keep an eye on for future trouble as soon as he started deleting his own entries on talk pages. Unless he does something worth blocking, I'm just going to continue to ignore him and whatever imaginings he has about me.  It's not worth it at this point.  Lanate (talk) 22:12, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * If it was just his own talk page he was messing with, I wouldn't even bring this up, but then he left this on my page, completely out of left field (I have no idea what he is talking about here). Golf lima oscar romeo india oscar uniform sierra  Charlie Hotel Alpha Oscar Sierra!  22:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless he begins to outright harass me or you or anyone else, we can't do anything. Lanate (talk) 22:42, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Seeing as he isn't really harrassing the pages themselves I can't say much. Leave him alone, but if he starts threatening... Only dead fish go with the flow. 23:45, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I am getting the feeling here that he will not vandalize the pages of any users who have not talked to him yet and oppose his views of whatever he's talking about. So, I am all for basically just ignoring him until he crosses the line (aka, starts vandalizing articles). - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 10:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Just to let you all know, I have more respect than that. -Kyle
 * Yeah, he tried to blank this discussion. I've blocked him for a month, and if he can come up with an explanation for his behavior that satisfies any of you, go ahead and remove the block. But his behavior so far has been ridiculous. Glorious  CHAOS!  01:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Rad140
On an unrelated note, what do we think about promoting Rad140? He seems to me to be quite devoted to the wiki, and we could definitely use someone other than me to be handling the main page and featured article business. Golf lima oscar romeo india oscar uniform sierra  Charlie Hotel Alpha Oscar Sierra!  22:02, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't mind. And if THB decides to come back, can we discuss him and his efforts to revitalize the episode pages as well?  Lanate (talk) 22:12, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually thought we already had promoted him then. Both of them are exemplary editors from what I've seen. Do you think we should wait for one of the other three admins to weigh in? I haven't seen them around lately, so I'm not sure if it would be a long wait, but I think for something like this we should at least have a majority opinion. Golf lima oscar romeo india oscar uniform sierra  Charlie Hotel Alpha Oscar Sierra!  22:35, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It is all fine with me about promoting the two, but we must also note that having too many admins would be a problem in future. - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 10:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I hadn't actually thought about that, Digi9346. Do you guys think this is it, then, unless someone leaves? Golf lima oscar romeo india oscar uniform sierra  Charlie Hotel Alpha Oscar Sierra!  17:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * On second thought, yeah. I guess we shouldn't be giving out admin positions so freely. Lanate (talk) 22:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * But I suppose that we could still give them rollback rights. It's the very least that they deserve for all the work they have put in for the wiki. What do you guys say? - Digi9346 - With each end, comes a new beginning... 13:07, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Definitely. Yes to that. Glorious  CHAOS!  17:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Demon Lord
Ooh, clarification. Lucemon's the Cho-Mao as the leader of the SGDL in the game, and Lucemon Shadowlord Mode's called the Demon Lord in battle. Lanate (talk) 09:00, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Digimon World 3
Ooh, there's a huge part of me which wants to do some citing for Digimon World 3 even though it's not really DW:EVOLVE compatible. I mean, there's digivolution lines I believe are clearly intended for the Digimon; like Renamon > Kyubimon > Taomon > Sakuyamon and Patamon > Angemon > MagnaAngemon > Seraphimon which are obtained by leveling up just the Rookie. But they're not storyline; only the Rookie >> Ultimate are. :/ Arrgh, but it'd be so nice for Monmon > Hookmon > Armormon > Cannondramon as well as Kotemon > Dinohumon > Kyukimon > GuardiAngemon and Bearmon > Grizzmon > GrapLeomon > Marsmon. I might make an argument about parallel lines = proof, but that's for another time. Lanate (talk) 22:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

This is stupid
look I just want to improve this wiki as much as possible and im sure you do to so lets just leave each other alone and do our part

Kyle33860

Armors
For Armadillomon, it just happens that all of his armors can be sourced to 02 material, his D-3 Digivice, or the Dawn/Dusk Gallery, which makes all of his armors canon. For Patamon, I added in a note that all of his armors are canon except for Rhinomon via Digi-Egg of Destiny for the same reasons. I figure that, with us considering the Digivice digivolutions canon, linking Veemon/Hawkmon/Armadillomon/Patamon/Gatomon/Wormmon to the Chart with the appropriate warnings would be better than fitting ten armor digivolutions on their individual pages.

Mhm, I shouldn't be here. I have an econ final in half an hour. :D Lanate (talk) 18:26, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Rollback?

 * Rollback lets you undo a series of edits by a vandal quickly. It's easily reversible if you screw up and pretty much are only there for convenience of trusted editors.  The only thing it doesn't do is prompt you if you really want to do it, but, like I said, easily revertible. Lanate (talk) 22:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Yup, I already got a chance to use it. Thanks vandals and crazy fanshippers! Rad140  Because I think this is about him and I want us to be prepared.  23:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Made up digimon vs. fan digimon
You say that you despise people that make up digimon, yet you have a fan Digimon as your partner. Is there a difference? Because if so I have several ideas for fan Digimon I would like to post, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to.
 * Hmm, that was worded badly. No, I have no problem with Fanmade Digimon, since they're not lies. I have a problem with people who are going around the articles putting stuff like "Veemon and Gatomon got married in Digimon Frontier", or "The DigiDestined in Adventure fought this one character named spikeymon." Basically, when people are either malicious or inconsiderate enough to create material that passes itself off as part of the official material. Glorious  CHAOS!  17:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry
I'm sorry I've acted this way. I just wanted to show people that the admin don't rule the wikis, but it got out of hand. I'm sorry please block this account, hell you have to I've deleted blog peices by now and I just cursed.

Suppress Redirect
I just realized we could uncheck the "leave a redirect behind" box and not have to delete something afterward. ^^; Lanate (talk) 04:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)