Talk:God

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A lot of the higher up Digimon's bios talk about this guy. Should we assume that it's one guy and start compiling these references, or what? 06:07, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think they referencing Yggdrasill. Final Cannon  Talk 13:10, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * That could be possible, but the bio's specifically call it a "Being of Goodness" as well, and it mostly appears in the bios for Christianity-orientated Digimon. 16:33, February 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * They protect the Digital World's central "Kernel", the domain of its "God", and each of them has a unique duty
 * As one of the Celestial Digimon, it is the executor of the enlightened God's laws
 * Although its true face and personality is hidden behind a mask and cannot be glimpsed, it is the being closest to the Being of Goodness called "God"
 * As one of the Celestial Digimon, it is the guardian of God and His wisdom
 * As one of the Celestial Digimon, it is a Holy Mother-like being who imparts the loving and merciful side of God
 * Its power exceeds that of Ultimates, and is said to rival that of the existence called "God" as well. It has a contradictory existence, in that one side of it loves all things, as God does, while the other is trying to destroy the whole world, as the Devil does.
 * However, in response to a Being of Goodness in the Digital World (possibly the humans who created the Digital World), it raged in fury and rebellion, and so was deleted to the Dark Area.
 * Bagramon had a tiff with God.


 * What about references to a "God" in other seasions, a la Tamers? Maybe a disambig page to different "Gods" that have been referenced throughout the series. Rad140 Message 17:27, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know what references they're are in the anime, though I know V-Tamers says that Daemon's Castle and the Tags were created by the Digital God. 02:44, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * There's references to a God in Tamers, mostly from the Devas, which is referring to Zhuqiaomon, although I can't remember if there are other references. There are some in Adventure 02, but I assume they're referring to the Sovereigns. Don't know about Frontier or Data Squard. Rad140 Message 05:20, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Also consider this statement: There is also a fifth member, Fanglongmon, who represents the center of the compass and acts as the "God" of the Digital World.- found in article Digimon Sovereigns

Well, I that this "God" is based on the supreme Christian Creator—the angels of Digimon clearly imply that: Many of the Celestial Digimon and lesser Angels seem to bear holy symbols such as the crucifix on themselves or their garb and/or weapons, and Angewomon used the sign of the Cross in her Heaven's Charm to destroy LadyDevimon. And don't forget about Lucemon either... Ralnon (talk) 00:21, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Gods of the Digital Worlds
Well in Digimon Adventure and Tamers, the Harmonious Ones/Sovereigns are shown to be the gods of the Digital Worlds of those continuities respectively. Fanglongmon is shown to be the "High Harmonious One" or the "Supreme Sovereign" in the sense that he is the leader of the group thus in a sense a "High God". However ENIAC and Atanasoff created the Digital Worlds of those continuities as shown in Digimon Tamers: Brave Tamer, so therefore they are in a sense the "Supreme Gods" of those continuities.

In V-Tamer I would likely say that it is ENIAC and Atanasoff as Yggdrasill/King Drasil was not created yet and nor does there seem to be any indication that Yggdrasill/King Drasil is the supreme god.

However in Digimon Frontier, I would likely say that it is Yggdrasill/King Drasil, given the prescence of the Royal Knights i.e Crusadermon, Dynasmon and Gallantmon (cameo in "Bizzare Bazzar"). The Celestial Angels and Lucemon were portrayed as the nearest things to gods, however angels are not considered on the same level as gods.

In Data Squad, the Olympus Twelve are the ruling gods presented with Yggdrasill/King Drasil as the supreme god.

In Digimon Next, Yggdrasill/King Drasil is presented as the supreme god, once again.

In D-Cyber, it is likely that Yggdrasill/King Drasil is the God of the Digital World, given the prescence of the Royal Knights/Holy Knights i.e Alphamon, Omnimon X, Medieval Gallantmon/Gallantmon X and Magnamon X.

Chronicle and X-Evolution which are similar paralles to each other have Yggdrasill/King Drasil as the God of the Digital World respetively.

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However, as Yggdrasill has been shown not to be omnipotent, ominscient, or infinitely good, Yggdrasill by definition falls short of the status of the God referred to in regards to digimon such as Seraphimon or Ophanimon.

Agreed; besides, for instance, he has command of Thirteen Royal Knights, and no connection has been shown between it and the Angel Digimon. Furthermore, never has it been shown to reside within any "Kernel", and its true form was a crystalline figure with a female appearance...while the "God" the Angels seem to serve is described explicitly as a "He". Ralnon (talk) 00:56, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

We shouldn't forget that Digimon is a multiverse, and as such, in Brave Tamer, it was explained that ENIAC created a model of the Digital Wiorld and somehow it evolved into a greater, omnipotent entity that created the Digittal World as well as the others Digital Worlds that exists in the Multiverse, and as such, he's omnipresent in all of existence, he's the true God.
 * That's a speculatory claim. Without sources, it won't be put on the page. 23:46, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

During Brave Tamer, ZeedMilleniummon was said that he was a threat to God itself, and that was ENIAC. Zeed is far more powerful than Seraphimon, the Royal Knights or the Digimon Sovereigns. So, we are safe to say that the "God" they were talking about was the existence called ENIAC.
 * Seriously, what is the quote that specifically identifies ENIAC as God? I'm a bit loathe to use ZeedMillenniummon's throwaway line, especially considering that it could have meant plural gods, it could have been a boast, lots of things, without changing the actual pronunciation or grammar of the Japanese line in any way.18:12, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand what is so hard to understand, in Brave Tamers it was specified to be the creators of the Digital World in all universes of the Multiverse. And as such they are all-powerful and omnipresent. So, unless you take the WonderSwan games of Ryo Akiyama as non-canon, then they are the gods of not only one but all Digital Worlds in existence.
 * ...erg.


 * 1) "Creator" does not necessarily imply "God", nor does it imply "omnipotent and omnipresent". YHWH in the Abrahamic religions is both creator AND God, omnipotent, and omnipresent, but his role as creator does not IMPLY those things.
 * 2) The Wonderswan games apply to the continuity of the Adventure series. Not the entire franchise as a whole, nor the specific continuities of the Dictionary profiles or the later series. It explicitly does not apply in most of the later series, like Data Squad, where Yggdrasill is the "God of the Digital World".
 * 3) For the claim that "ENIAC is the God of the Digital World in the Adventure series," you need to have an explicit citation. It's that simple. 20:54, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Xros Wars manga 20
Implies that the "God" in Bagramon's profile is Yggdrasill. This makes sense, considering the profile, and explicitly ties together the angel profiles' mentions of God with Yggdrasill. Should we merge? 17:06, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Specifically, it says "God's storehouse/hideaway...the Data Tree Yggdrasill!", plus a lot of stuff too small for me to read yet. Also, Bagramon and the Royal Knights talk about God with the furigana for "Homeostasis", so we should definitely merge in that info. 05:02, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Are we sure that we should count Adventure's Homeostasis on that? In Adventure they were multiple and denied being gods, while in Xros Wars it seems to be a single being. I think Homeostasis might be a supra-dimensional name, or maybe it's just because of the homage aspect the manga has. 20:02, February 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * What is the source for multiple Homeostasis? I haven't seen the Japanese original, but in the dub we only see the one Homeostasis and the Agents.
 * In any case, XW20 seems to say that the franchise-wide concepts of "Yggdrasill", "God", and "Homeostasis" are the same thing; whether they are actually considered gods in each continuity, or show up at all, is a matter for the fiction section. As an analogy, Huanglongmon and the Four Holy Beasts are gods in Adventure and Tamers, but not in Xros Wars.
 * If you prefer, we can wait until we get a hold of a reliable script for XW19 and XW20 before merging. 21:08, February 23, 2012 (UTC)