User talk:Sailormarz

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Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Zoe Orimoto page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! Ryo205 (talk) 14:45, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

Zoe
When exactly was she portrayed as physically strong? From you answer to me, it seems you're just saying she can fight, which is not the same thing as being physically strong. I admit I don't remember Frontier very well, and I haven't taken time to rewatch it yet, but from what I remember, Izumi was portrayed as pretty much the weakest in the group, and is the only one who lost her debut fight. It's not my fault the writers were sexist. Every series since Frontier has had the girls as either weak or useless or ruined by writing incompetence. 19:46, April 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * You don't "combat sexism" by claiming that, for example, the women in the God of War series are tastefully represented and not at all objectified. You don't lie about what is clearly visible -- you shine a light on the inadequacies. Zoe is consistently portrayed as the weak member of the team in combat -- the only Digimon she ever defeats on her own is the female villain, and she even "needs male assistance" in her debut fight. As a wiki, our role is to report on the facts, not to deny the inconvenient ones. 13:37, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * In any case, you've recieved a ban for violating the wiki's code of conduct. If you'd like to have the ban rescinded, please state that you have familiarized yourself with the relevant policies and will not violate them again. 13:43, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Though to be fair, I'd argue that Zoe and Tommy are on equal power levels; that is, equally weak. They both required assistance on their debut battles, they both have their Spirits stolen (though they do help out in different ways while powerless; Zoe by saving Seraphimon's DigiEgg and Tommy by calming the berserk Takuya), and the only Digimon they really defeat is the culmination of their personal struggles in the Sakkakumon arc. That also brings in the unflattering comparison that Zoe's strength is only on par with that of a kid noticeably younger than the rest. Just putting in my two cents. Lanate (talk) 14:06, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's certainly true that Zoe has strengths, and they should be highlighted, but as far as combat goes, she's depicted as very nearly a joke, like Ranamon. 14:23, April 7, 2014 (UTC)