Forum:Definitive Family Trees

One thing that's been driving me crazy for YEARS is that I never got to see Gomamon's, Biyomon's, Tentomon's, or Palmon's Megas. I recently started looking it up but it's quite confusing. Gomamon for example has two possible megas: Plesiomon and Vikemon, while Plesiomon's page says it's gomamon's mega and it does seem to be colored the same as gomamon, Vikemon looks so much more like Zudomon and a logical advancement of the seal/walrus theme.

Another thing that plagues me is that with Veemon his champion was exveemon. But I know Veedramon exists and continues veemon's theme of blue dinsosaur like digimon. In fact it seems far more likely that exveemon exists only to facilitate the DNA digivolution that interrupted his normal line. So now I wonder what the normal digivolutions for the second season would have been.

I don't care so much for the other seasons outside the first two, but if anyone is really into that we can work on those as well. I want to finally have a definitive family tree for my favorite digimon. As a side mission I am also willing to work on other digimon such as Betamon->Seadramon->Megaseadramon->Metalseadramon and so on and so forth. Once we get the digidestined trees done I want to make an encyclopedia of digivolution if I can :D

Here's our list so far:

First Season:

Botamon-Koromon-Agumon-Greymon-SkullGreymon/MetalGreymon-WarGreymon

Punimon-Tsunomon-Gabumon-Garurumon-WereGarurumon-MetalGarurumon

Pabumon-Motimon-Tentomon-Kabuterimon-MegaKabuterimon-(HerculesKabuterimon)

Pichimon-Bukamon-Gomamon-Ikkakumon-Zudomon-Vikemon

Nyokimon-Yokomon-Biyomon-Birdramon-Garudamon-(Phoenixmon/Hououmon)

Yuramon-Tanemon-Palmon-Togemon-Lillymon-(Rosemon)

Poyomon-Tokomon-Patamon-Angemon-MagnaAngemon-Seraphimon

Yukimibotamon-Nyaromon-Salamon-Gatomon-Angewoman-(Magnadramon/Ophanimon)

Second Season:

Chibomon-DemiVeemon-Veemon-Veedramon-Aeroveedramon-UlforceVeedramon

Pururumon-Poromon-Hawkmon-Aquilamon-?????/Silphymon-?????/Valkryimon

Tsubumon-Upamon-Armadillomon-Ankylomon-????/Shakkoumon-????/(Vikemon)

Leafmon-Minmon-Wormmon-Stingmon-????/Dinobeemon-????/(GranKuwagamon)

Zerimon-Gummymon-Terriermon-Gargomon-Rapidmon-MegaGargomon

Conomon-Kokomon-Lopmon-Wendigomon-Antylamon-Kerpymon or Cherubimon

Third Season:

Ketomon-Hopmon-Monodramon-Strikedramon-Cyberdramon-(Justimon)

Extra Lines:

????-????-????-Leomon-(GrapLeomon)-SaberLeomon

????-????-Otamamon-Gekomon-ShogunGekomon-????

Mokumon-DemiMeramon-????-Meramon-SkullMeramon-????

MetalKoromon-Kapurimon-????-Gaurdromon-Andromon-HiAndromon

????-????-DemiDevimon-Devimon-(MarineDevimon/SkullSatamon/Myotismon)-????/????/VenomMyotismon

????-????-????-Sukamon-Etemon-MetalEtemon

????-????-????-????-Myotismon-VenomMyotismon

????-????-Betamon-Seadramon-MegaSeadramon-MetalSeadramon

????-????-Mushroommon-Woodmon-Cherrymon-Puppetmon

????-????-????-????-Gigadramon/Megadramon-Machinedramon

Piedmon (nothing available at all)

????-????-????-????-Mephistophomon-Apokarimon

Kuramon-Tsumemon-Keramon-Chrysalimon-Infermon-Diaboromon

a / denotes multiple possibilities, and denotes a guess If you have any suggestions please feel free to post them. Vampiremessiah51 22:05, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Actually most of those ultimates you mentioned ARE DNA digivolutions, which as you stated aren't natural stages. Also I can't believe no one else can see how oddly appropriate Vikemon is for Gomamon's Mega. I know it says Plesiomon is his Mega but where did that come from? Vikemon fits him so much better other than looking like a huge LIZARD version of Gomamon. Vikemon looks much more like a seal/walrus type and a much more natural evolution of Zudomon. It even fits the norse theme as well. ExVeemon doesn't seem to HAVE a natural ultimate, and Imperialdramon doesn't happen without Paildramon who isn't natural either. I'm 90% sure Veedramon is his natural and we have evidence of that chain leading straight up to a mega. Obviously he was origionally intended to be the champion, but perhaps it was too much like Greymon and didn't fit the DNA digivolution form as well. Shakkoumon is in fact NOT Armadillomon's Natural Evolution either, that's a DNA digivolution, it looks NOTHING like ankylomon, its more of a combination of an Angel and an Earthy digimon, which makes perfect sense for being combined between a fossilized creature and an actual angel... Ankylomon would most likely evolve into a larger spikier digimon of a similar color continuing it's pattern. See my argument? Vampiremessiah51 21:42, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

There really isn't another good Ultimate for Ankylomon. Vikemon was originally a DNA of Zudomon and Shakkoumon, it just happens to look more like the Zudomon side (same as Shakkoumon looks more like the Angemon side; Ankylomon's DNA seems to not be very dominant). I know this isn't actually supported by anything, but I usually envision Lampmon as an evolved form of Shakkoumon. Also, Gomamon has another possible Mega (from the first V-Pet it was in) in MarineAngemon, which kind of resembles Gomamon at least. The Golux 00:24, March 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Digimon Tamers: Brave Tamer is the game Kryten's talking about. Zudomon > Vikemon's proven in the Vikemon biography.


 * Anything else is speculation, no matter what you may think. Yes, you can have opinions, but that doesn't stop Shakkoumon from being Armadillomon's Ultimate form in the D-3 and Brave Tamer.  Or that Paildramon digivolves from ExVeemon in numerous places. Lanate (talk) 02:32, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well I guess Gomamon is solved thanks Lanate. DNA digimon from the second season are ultimate level, they just aren't the natural ones. I am searching for their natural ones. I know DNA digivolution is only a method of digivolution. What -I- meant was that Shakkoumon is NOT Armadillomon's natural ultimate BECAUSE it is a DNA digivolution. I'm trying to avoid video game evolutions cause they use that huge tree which mixes and matches the families. I'm trying to use logic and whatever information I can get ahold of to find their true family trees for as many digimon as I can.Vampiremessiah51 01:25, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

It's a good theory but I honestly can't say I agree with it. When digimon DNA digivolve you can hear BOTH digimon's voices simultaneously. Also in the show they described it as feeling like they were combined into a single being. Assuming all digimon are capable of digivolving to mega over time (though I must say I doubt next to none accomplish this) then Armadillomon must have his own ultimate and mega forms. The way I see it is that Shakkoumon is a combination of angemon and ankylomon thus not being either of their natural ultimates but a new stronger ultimate created by their fusing. It can't be natural because without Angemon, Ankylomon could have never become shakkoumon and vice versa. He must have his own ultimate form as well, but like you mentioned with the power sources, because he lacked the needed power, he had no other means of reaching an ultimate level except by DNA digivolving so we don't know his natural state. You could be right but honestly I think there's enough evidence to support the fact that no DNA digimon can naturally occur without DNA digivolution (aka it wouldn't happen naturally). Vampiremessiah51 23:26, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're ignoring the fact that in Digimon Tamers: Brave Tamer he does reach Shakkoumon naturally. Lanate (talk) 23:32, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Right. It's not a theory. It happens all the time, and has been explicitly shown. In Digimon Battle, Devimon digivolves naturally to SkullSatamon, through simply defeating enough Digimon and taking their data (like in the original pets). In Digimon V-Tamer 01, SkullSatamon is the DNA digivolution of Devimon and Ogremon.
 * All methods of digivolution are simply a way of finding energy. Whether you use a DigiDestined's energy, a tag and crest, a Digi-Egg, DNA digivolution, Biomerging, Spirits, or you use the original method of taking others' data, it's just a power source. Yes, most of the Spirit and Digi-Egg evolutions have been designed to make it obvious that they were Digi-Egg or Spirit digivolved, but they can be reached naturally as well. The same goes with DNA, except that only a few Digimon have the DNA path made obvious. Glorious  CHAOS!  00:00, April 1, 2010 (UTC)