User talk:G-SANtos

Sources and duplication response
Bob Papenbrook was listed on Asuramon's bio before you did a revert. It was Derek Stephen Prince I added when I saw his name in the credits (though I didn't notice who did Kotemon). Also, the info to different characters for Digimon Fusion was added to their page just like every other Digimon that had media appearances in the different animes. Did I leave anything out? --Rtkat3 (talk) 22:04, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * For the voice actor part, there was a Digimon Encyclopedia that run by a person named Chris McFeely who has made contact with known voice directors Jeff Nimoy and Mary Elizabeth McGlynn (where both of them currently have Facebook accounts). When Jeff Nimoy had the Q&A forum for when he had a website that he created with Quinton Flynn, he would give guest cast info back when Digimon Data Squad was in production and detail some occasional production info (Jeff mentioned that BioSpinomon was dubbed to BioSupinomon by the English dub companies). Of course there were some roles in "Digimon Fusion" that were uncredited like the ground-swimming Coelamon, specific residents of the Sky Zone, and the MegaKabuterimon Red (them I was able to identify Michael Sorich's vocal effects for). As for the duplication thing, they were also added on the Digimon's respectful pages because the links provided were redirected to a large character page. I thought there can be info on both parts with one of them having more information there. Though for Gargoylemon in "Digimon Fusion," Liam O'Brien still did an impersonation of Arnold Schwarzenegger's voice when voicing Gargoylemon. --Rtkat3 (talk) 22:37, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Digimons
Hey friend, you know how many Digimon are there? counting X versions and forms changed to years
 * This category is counting 1168. 00:17, April 8, 2014 (UTC)/21:17, April 7, 2014 (Brasília)

Olympos XII Gods
Can we find any of the other lists of Digimon groups? 15:20, April 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Better ask Yottamon, since he/she was the one to provide the screenshot when Grandy02 asked why he/she reverted your edition on Wikimon's Olympos XII page. Grandy also asked for an image of the Three Archangels that includes BlackSeraphimon. 15:26, April 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Can't get on wikimon right now, but if I recall correctly BlackSeraphimon is added to the group by its Jintrix card. 17:42, April 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think BlackSeraphimon was only ever included here because someone ref'd a news article calling Crusader's opening a battle between the Three Archangels. Lanate (talk) 17:49, April 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was me. I was only said that to show that Grandy already started requesting more pictures. 20:17, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

Arts Site
hello, i found a site that shows some arts some digimons of digimon fusion, and I do not know if they are official or fanart, could you tell me?

http://dma.wtw-x.net/DMA/DigimonStands/Bandai/Shadowman/
 * Some are edited. At any rate, we can't take images from other fan sites. 14:33, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

Span
I want to add tags so that when the cursor hovers over a link, it would read as "" rather than ":" when using templates that link to other sites. KrytenKoro wanted me to make sure that you and Lanate are cool with this first. Chimera-gui (talk) 20:49, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with it. All browsers show the URL in the page's bottom, don't they? 21:49, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes they do. Chimera-gui (talk) 23:51, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Voice actor categorization
I did that cause I know most other Wikis sort the articles like that. I've changed my mind though so ya know. I'm leaving for good this time. I feel useless here. Good luck w/ this Wiki in the future. --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 18:21, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Can you check this?
http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Takato_Matsuki?curid=3912&diff=373739&oldid=372686
 * The episode is correct, though Takato didn't finish the phrase. He said "Katō-san no koto...", and didn't say the "like" part, but the fansub translated as "I like..." as a contextual verb-guessing. Seeing as we have this is a grammatical issue, how we do deal with this? Do we want to remove that episode's storylink on the basis of the phrase being incomplete, or do we keep it based on contextual obviousness? 21:23, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Arukenimon
Hello. I found yours & the other one's profile. I sent this same message on Ryo's profile so I gladly would like it removed from there.

I think that it is absurd that you think Arukenimon's japanese name is Archne. That is clearly not how they pronounce it. アルケニモン is even spelled Arukeni & that is how they even pronounce it in the anime series. & even Digimon.net translates it from japanese to Arukeni. Here's a video from YouTube of the pronunciation of her name http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AWF1D8ZvQI.

About SlashAngemon; Your statement about my information being false might be correct regarding the american dub, however I do not welcome your statement about accusing my knowledge of Arukenimon's japanese pronunciation for being false.

Try to understand that I wasn't trying to vandalize your site. Next time I will just send a message before editing anything. Besides I didn't find the other administrators' profiles until recently. I have only been directed to Ryo so I apologize to him with all respect.

--RogueTheWarrior (talk) 15:58, May 25, 2014 (UTC)Kassra Romeo Arturia

Tohma/Tenjho
I realized that I confunded Tohma's name with Tenjho oh & ho. Thank you for telling me that. However I suppose the pronunciation of them both are the same as one another Touma & Tenjou. I barely even know any japanese but I am still interested in the japanese language. I didn't mean to vandalize your site. But I am anyway getting the information of pronunciations from/by watching the original japanese series so you can believe my word on that.

--RogueTheWarrior (talk) 16:12, May 25, 2014 (UTC)Kassra Romeo Arturia

Official romanization of the japanese name
So I also just need to mention 1 last thing to you.

Even though you say that the japanese name parameter is the official romanization of the japanese name how can you prove that to me without any further proof of that?

Like how her name is always pronounced Arukeni in the series & the fact that アルケニモン reads Arukeni as well & not being pronounced as nor read "Archne".

I doubt the japaneses are able to pronounce Archne so they reformulated it to Arukeni just like the japanese people often do.

I believe rather that her american name is Archne just like the Digimon Masters Online wiki tells you http://dmowiki.com/Archnemon.

I know very well that that name is derived from the spiders' latin name Arachnida.

All I try to do is to improve this wikipedia, particularly for BanchouLeomon & Arukenimon. These pages are the only ones I've been caring to edit.

About SlashAngemon that was just a mistake I never should have commited.

After all I am not interested in the american names anyway, only the japanese names have caught my interest so that was my bad there.

However taking the changing of Arukenimon's name to Arukeni in consideration will be highly appreciated by me & I don't think there is anything more for me to edit. So you won't have to shiver in the spine anymore. This is it.

さらばだ --RogueTheWarrior (talk) 16:55, May 25, 2014 (UTC)Kassra Romeo Arturia

Pronunciation of ou in japanese (Banchou)
Click the megaphone marked button to hear. https://translate.google.se/#ja/en/%E7%95%AA%E9%95%B7 It is not just a simple o like people might think.

RhodoKnightmon (LordKnightmon)
I just want to leave an important message about LordKnightmon's special technique Argent Fear. Saw on the page that it is named "Urgent" & that is seriously wrong. He says Argent in both Frontier & Digimon Savers (Original japanese). I advice you to watch them yourself. And it's not only about the pronunciation. Here I got a proof of what Argent is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argent Argent is the tincture of silver & belongs to the class of light tinctures called "metals". It is depicted as white in engravings & line drawings.

Mainly used for the coat of arms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms. It is a unique heraldic design on for example a shield. In this case LordKnightmon's so called bunker, which is his shield.

After reading this I advice you to change the name to "Argent". It is absolutely not an urgent fear, but the fear of his Argent Shield.

Because I don't see any point in this wiki to exist if it contains wrong information. This is my absolute honest opinion. Hoping you won't be wrongheaded & change the name immediately instead after reading this. Else I will have to send the links to both episodes of Frontier & Savers where he says Argent Fear. So it'd be kind to not let me have to do it.

Best regards.

--RogueTheWarrior (talk) 16:49, May 28, 2014 (UTC)Kassra Romeo Arturia

DCo
Hey G-S a little question?--Kyurem147 (talk) 21:12, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes? 13:51, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Use rapaciously, but please credit Theigno
http://www.mediafire.com/download/qh8o9hxoojilsd9/demon lords.zip

Apology
I'm sorry. --Pokemasterss (talk) 06:47, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

Affiliation Request
Opinion if you have the time? Lanate (talk) 14:04, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Deletion Request
Hello I'm fairly new to how this process works but there was a photo uploaded(link here http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/File:Swallowmon_by_codiciosa-d45c58d.png?title=File%3ASwallowmon_by_codiciosa-d45c58d.png&cb=6564) and it is a fan made digimon but the artist was not aware her character was posted here. I know her and let her know about it and she wants it deleted from the wiki as soon as possible.
 * Done. KrytenKoro deleted it. 16:39, August 14, 2014 (UTC)

Moon=Millenniummon
Is the correct name Moon=Millenniummon or MoonMillenniummon?--Kyurem147 (talk) 20:26, August 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Moon=Millenniummon. 20:44, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

Are you sure because a name with = sign doesn't seem right.--Kyurem147 (talk) 22:51, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's a . Lanate (talk) 01:18, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

Pics
Can you please upload http://pic.twitter.com/GwUhMI4OET and http://pic.twitter.com/nqBUvuKD2j ? I can't do it from my PC, and using my mobile would wreck the image quality. If you can use GIMP to remove the byline and square the image, that would be even better. 15:56, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

AxeKnightmon
Would you say Axemon is SkullKnightmon brother and who out of the two is really Bagramon's brother? 20:59, September 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Er... I think "cups of brotherhood" is some sort of language, or an affirmation that they are like brothers due to their bond, though I don't know what the "cups" part means. Maybe it's a medieval term? DeadlyAxemon is never actually stated to be actually related to SkullKnightmon, except, if I remember well, in an American TV guide that seemed to take the "cups of brotherhood" phrasing literally.
 * SkullKnightmon is explicitly stated to be Bagramon's brother in both anime and manga. 21:20, September 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * For the "cups of brotherhood" thing, think , or better yet, Marcus and Agumon. 00:16, September 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I took it to mean like non-familial version of s, which is like the Band of Brothers concept. Lanate (talk) 02:05, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Untitled
You can't do this to me

Well sorry to disagree with you I weather not signing out I weather staying right here so why don't you SHUT UP and LEAVE ALONE!!!!!
 * These messages were left by    .  19:18, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

What have you done You IDIOT I WILL KILL YOU AND THERE WILL BE NO MORE WARNING I WHETHER STAY HERE AND DIED.

Surname
Well, then how come all of the other English voice actors are sorted that way? I don't get it. --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 00:23, September 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * I do follow all of the rules, by the way. I've never vandalized a single page or uploaded any porn at all. Why are my edits always viewed as wrong and unhelpful? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 00:34, September 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * I accept your apology. I'm still takin a break from this particular Wiki though. So long for now. Oh by the way, I think you should consider archiving your user talk page. --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 22:57, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Derek Stephen Prince
I have GREAT news about the Derek Stephen Prince page. In the words of Kermit the Frog: No more citations!! YAY!!!! I found proof for all of his incited Digimon characters!! What do you say to that?? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 18:46, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

My progress
How am I doing now? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 20:47, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Voice actors
You have to admit, it's pretty impressive, the number of voice actor articles I've created, isn't it? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 20:39, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Shoutmon EX6
I was wondering why we are changing the romanization of Soul Calibur to Sol Calibur? Is there an official romanization? If not, the use of "Soul/Damashii" attacks in the Shoutmon line would indicate it as the more likely translation. 17:08, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * As fas as I know, Soul is ソウル and Sol is ソル. There's no official romanization for the attack, but given we have Apollomon's Solblaster, I think its supposed to be Sol. In fact, I think I used "Soul" based on someone else's suggestion. 18:54, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Weird. Could you make sure it get's fixed on wikimon, too? 20:19, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

AWB
Hey, do you think we could schedule a time to meet on the wikia-digimon IRC so we can get AWB set up for you and me? 14:03, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you available now? 14:14, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Anyway, I don't have classes this week, so any time until Saturday would be best. I'm not sure if I'll be available Sunday. Though today I'm going to see a movie at 21:00 UTC.
 * Maybe tomorrow? I think I don't have anything tomorrow. At what times are you available?
 * Also, how des this thing about getting AWB set up works? Because I've already downloaded AWB to one of my computers. Is it about setting up to work with a specific Wiki? 14:30, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I can be available this evening (in about five hours, for me). Mostly, I just want to make sure we both have the settings correct, so we can quickly get the image renaming project completed. 19:07, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow, I buggered that up. 16:15, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Michael McConnohie/Golemon
So if Michael McConnohie didn't voice Golemon in Digimon Adventure 02, do we have any idea who did? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 23:46, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, because it isn't mentioned in that page. 00:14, October 16, 2014 (UTC)/21:13, October 15, 2014 (Brasília)
 * All right. Oh by the way, why didn't u respond on my talk page? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 00:20, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * I prefer all messages of a conversation to be on the same talk page so it's easier to track everything. 00:24, October 16, 2014 (UTC)/21:24, October 15, 2014 (Brasília)

Please don't restore my talk page info as I deleted out of my own free will. --BlazeCannon15 (talk) 13:15, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

I'm leaving this wiki so I would like to clear everything out which is why I did it.

New Gallery Mode
As you know, a new gallery is in development: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ieatrice/New_Image_Galleries_Available_in_Labs

I've been using ?gallery=new to see how the gallery pages would look with the new gallery feature turned on like so: http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Gallery:Agumon?gallery=new

The main appeal of this is that it cuts down on wasted space so what do you think? Chimera-gui (talk) 18:07, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * I prefer the way we've been doing things. As Kryten said, there's no point in using it in Digimon Wiki, as there are no pages that would need that. Also, the text blocking part of the image, as well as the image being cut on some borders really bugs me. 19:11, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

My recent edits
Hi, am I doing all right? Or should I leave? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 15:00, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Most of it is alright. However, you still keep putting citations where it isn't needed, like movie-only characters who are credited (Kinu), and when there's already an official source for it (Joey D'Auria). 19:58, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Before you go any further sourcing from fansites (which just to remind you, are good for fact-checking but will ultimately need to be replaced), it would be a really good idea to just go through the credits to each episode and catalogue what they say, in a similar manner to what is done here. You can start your version in your userspace here. Doing that would help avoid a lot of the typos that G-SANtos and I have been having to look after. 23:10, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Passe
What do you mean by "passe" here? 23:10, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Talk page
This is just a suggestion but I think you should consider archiving your user talk page. --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 20:32, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know, but there are some things I intend on doing first. 20:38, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course. By the way, if being shared by Lex Lang and Steve Staley can't be listed on their own pages, why is  being shared by Melissa Fahn and Mari Devon on Mari Devon's page? --  GROUCH  Man  (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 20:49, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't remember anyone mentioning they can't be listed. You must be mistaking for something else. 21:00, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Look at Lex and Steve's page histories and you should see what I'm talking about here. --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 21:23, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * I just looked, and no one said they can't be listed. You must be mistaking with this, which doesn't say they can't be shared, but says that when only one form is shared, that form must be split and listed under the non-shared forms. 21:30, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Runaway Locomon
Hey, for Runaway Locomon, shouldn't we include the fact that de-digivolved to  when all the  were destroyed by ? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 22:51, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we should. 23:22, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice work. By the way, shouldn't we also include the Digivolution of to ? --  GROUCH  Man  (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 00:10, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Whoops
Sorry about Aegisdramon, I didn't know if you're going to add a section to Gomamon's page or not. Chimera-gui (talk) 03:27, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Charlie
I just checked the Digimon Encyclopedia section on all the Digimon Adventure/Digimon Adventure 02 voice actors and Charlie isn't listed there at all. He was voiced by Jeff Nimoy, that's obvious. But are you sure he's on that list? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 23:15, November 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I thought it was one of those citations you had forgotten. Anyway, if we can't find him on any list, we can't claim he was voiced by Jeff Nimoy. 23:22, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

hi, recently i've edited the piximon page and wrote piccolomon instead of picklemon. i hope you understand why i did this. even though it does say picklemon in the anime, it's obviously an error, seeing as if there are many english mistakes in the series generally too. could you at least feature it somewhere in the article that his name literally translates to piccolomon please? (Fuumika (talk) 12:44, November 18, 2014 (UTC))

Genesis of Evil recap
Yo, check this out: I just found this video of "If I had a Tail Hammer", it gives the episode recap for "Genesis of Evil":

Ken: "I don't know how to explain what happened to me. I think I was in a coma. I dreamed about my brother, Sam, and the first time we saw a Digivice. Sam thought it was his and wouldn't let me touch it. But it was actually meant for me. I was the one destined to become the Digimon Emperor. Lucky me, I wish I never read that email! When I woke up I was really confused, but I remembered my promise to to always be a kind person. I don't know why I went back to the Digital World because he was gone, but it's a good thing I did! He came back as !"

--  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 18:15, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

A random request
So, I uploaded a video showing Sleipmon has Burst mode in Digimon Neo. So I believe this mode should be added to Sleipmon's page. I have mentioned this in its talk page already and even prepared its. --Rhivana| I don't know,  but I love Darkus now. 20:45, November 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Better ask the other admins, but like Lanate said in the linked talk page, we need more info on this. 01:47, December 1, 2014 (UTC)/23:47, November 30, 2014 (Brasília, summer time)
 * If the Digimon Neo is based on the Digimon Burst, then my understanding is that basically every Ultimate has a Burst Mode -- is this correct? If so, my issue would be whether Bandai considers it a separate Digimon -- it could be intended as just a variant form, like Gatomon (Ringless), so it would only get a mention on the species page and the image in the infobox, rather than treating it as a distinct species wiki-wide. 15:52, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

Wow, I wonder
if I can match the IP of a certain new editor with that of an old one. :\ 14:31, December 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, go ahead. 15:18, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Category:Digimon_Fusion_Images
Are you still renaming those images, ro is it safe for Lanate and me to work on it? 01:22, December 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll continue the renaming of the images. I just paused for a few weeks because I had to study for a test. Now, can we solve that AWB thing? I'll get to the IIRC now. 01:30, December 4, 2014 (UTC)/23:30, December 3, 2014 (Brasília, summer time)
 * I have to pack for a trip when I get home, but I will get on IRC as soon as I can. 01:46, December 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * By the way, I'll go to sleep in less than two hours, so if not possible today, we can try again tomorrow. 02:11, December 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * I can try to do it over my mobile, but I'm gonna be on the road for aforementioned trip as soon as I get off work today. How would tomorrow at 5:00 (32 hours from now) work? 14:30, December 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, let's try. 14:40, December 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Gotdammit I am the worst person. I am so, so sorry guys, with all the travel commitments I forgot about this appointment. 03:25, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I won't be available for today, so let's try next week. 12:10, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Digivice+ article finished
Dude! Are you the one who put the Digivice+ page on to the Fan Stubs page? If you did, I finished it, so take it off!!!!! --I AM THE KING OF AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18:48, December 5, 2014 (UTC)

Hi
I have a question to ask if you don't mind. --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 02:23, December 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes? 14:19, December 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * You said that all characters credited by the voice actors/actresses in the movie don't need to be listed on the voice actor articles right? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 20:41, December 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * The movie-only characters usually are credited in the movie itself, so we don't need an external source for these. 02:31, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes but Lex Lang and Steve Staley aren't credited as for Runaway Locomon so why can't we list it on those articles with the Digimon Encyclopedia for proof? --  GROUCH  Man  (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 07:20, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * They are already listed for the series, so we don't need to list it for the movies. Listing the movies should be only for movie-only characters or in case the movie uses a different actor from the series. 22:14, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * You mean like how Philece Sampler filled in as both Riley and Jeri in Runaway Locomon, but in the series Tifanie Christun was always Riley & Bridget Hoffman was always Jeri? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 04:49, December 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. 19:14, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

Kindness.jpg
Even though the original file would be an official image, it's so different from the images of eight other Crests images. It just disturbed me too much. CAJH (talk) 16:04, December 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Irrelevant. We stick to the official images even if they look very different from other official images. 16:07, December 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * If I would have been certain the original image was official, I would've done nothing. CAJH (talk) 11:50, December 11, 2014 (UTC)

Nancy Takaishi
Just so you know, on the Nancy Takaishi page, the category of Characters in Digimon Adventure, for some reason listed her by her surname. That's why I added it to the other categories. --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 20:40, December 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * It probably escaped our notice. 02:31, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

He's returned
Hey, i've been poking around the wiki (not in a bad way, if you must know), and i'm going 2 tell you something u may or may not know: u know JBolbotowski1, the guy who got banned? Well, i think he's back, just with a new wikia account. Here's who i think he is: JanuszJr. plz reply with what u think! --I AM THE KING OF weezing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21:57, December 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * has stopped editing since even before Jbobotowski1 got banned, so the account is not new. Also, he hasn't made any edits since January 2012. 02:31, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, well, thanks 4 hearing me out anyway! --I AM THE KING OF AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 19:58, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Moon=Millenniummon
Is it Moon=Millenniummon or MoonMillenniummon?--Kyurem147 (talk) 21:37, December 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Moon=Millenniummon. 21:38, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

But shouldn't names not have = in them?--Kyurem147 (talk) 21:47, December 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's a . Didn't you already ask this to Kryten some weeks ago? Or am I mistaking for someone else? 15:17, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Birth dates
Yo if we never include birth dates, why is Bob Papenbrook's birth date along with his death date, still mentioned on his article? --  GROUCH  Man (  MY   TRASH   CAN  ) 04:46, December 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because you created the article and I didn't notice the dates until you pointed out. It was probably during the time I was too busy to check all the articles. 19:14, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

Soft Redirects
Is there a reason the     haven't been deleted? They don't seem to work as actual redirects and the interwiki templates would probably be better for what these are being used for. Chimera-gui (talk) 01:04, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know. It's probable no one felt bothered to delete them. I'll take care of this once I finish some things. 21:59, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you. Chimera-gui (talk) 03:22, December 26, 2014 (UTC)

Question
ShikiKira (talk) 07:37, December 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Unless you explain, I won't know what you don't want me to do again.
 * 2) Don't use an abbreviation for a headline, at least not my talk page if you want to talk to me about a problem. Not everyone will know what you are talking, and I certainly don't.
 * 3) If you want your pages to be done a certain way, why don't you guys create a set of guideline pages.
 * 4) Wouldn't the Digimon pages be better off by separating it into individual pages if the Digimon have subversions of themselves.

Hi, its Dusk.

Thanks for helping me edit my fan fiction pages.

You asked me "Can you start your fan fiction already in the Fan space?"

I'm pretty sure you mean just titling my works so they go into the Fan Fiction Section, but the way you worded it also makes me think you just want me to start writing the actual fiction already. If the latter is the case, its not ready yet.

Again, thanks for your help!

Dusk.ryder (talk) 13:32, January 5, 2015 (UTC) Dusk Ryder

Human Form Question
Is there any reason that Human Form includes an image called "File:Yukio Oikawa t.gif" that doesn't seem to exist? Chimera-gui (talk) 01:02, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's so that the image is already in place when it gets uploaded. 02:10, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

underscores
It leaves them automatically for editors using the visual editor, so the most we can do is just clean up after it. Also, if the editor isnt being aggressive or vandalizing, we probably dont need to be commanding or rude to them. Thanks! 03:54, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Grab Template
I don't know how much this will help with the new format but I found a template called that transcludes content from other pages. Using this would allow you to separate the Digimon Subspecies into their own pages while still displaying the content from those pages on the main Species pages (E.G. Splitting Sistermon Blanc and Sistermon Noir into separate pages but still display both on the main Sistermon page).

I should note though that categories get transcluded as well unless you put them between tags. Chimera-gui (talk) 00:21, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

Ken's Talk Page
Now I understand that the Talk page isn't a forum but the topic KillerQ13 posted is one worth discussing. I can move it to the Forum where it actually belongs if you want. Chimera-gui (talk) 16:28, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Withthewill might get better traction, if you want commentary. This wiki isn't really the best place to get people to respond to non-wiki stuff, even if we do have a section for it. 17:59, February 2, 2015 (UTC)

Collapsing templates
I know a code that makes templates collapse since I can see that, even though they can collapse, they aren't collapsed. Would you like me to insert it in your templates here.  Ellis99  CODE XANA  16:37, February 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * You better consult Lanate on that. 15:11, February 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by that statement? We do already have collapsible templates, and it's also by choice that they're default open. Lanate (talk) 22:02, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

Image Licensing
Hello. I wanted to ask if we could upload fan arts in this wiki. If so, then which license should we use?

I wanted to ask this question ssoner if it weren't for the Internet connection problems.

 Howling Darkness  Message.
 * Yes, you can, but any fan art needs the artist's permission to be posted here. For the license, base it on File:XILA-Mon.png. 15:33, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, will keep that in mind. Unfortunately, I don't have the permission from the artist. I got the picture from Google Images. You can delete it.

Oh, and another question, can a user who is not an admin delete the pictures?

 Howling Darkness  Message. 16:02, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Only admins can perform any kind of deletion. 16:04, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks.  Howling Darkness  Message.

Confirmation
Was Dan Woren confirmed as Wisemon's actor? Chimera-gui (talk) 08:46, February 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes. The XW credits are archived here. 13:44, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Digimon Fusion Analyzers
I apologize for the method I setup for naming those; upon doing it myself, I realize how horrible it is when I'm trying to add more. I know you did a lot of work already on naming those, but if I did the moves and fixes myself, do you think I could shift it to be more screenshot-ish, like File:6-01 Analyzer-01 EN.png to File:6-01 Analyzer-Mikey Kudo EN.png? Lanate (talk) 02:14, March 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if I see what's the proble with the new system. Could you elaborate on it?  21:11, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Mainly when I'm trying to add Analyzers that have been missed, I end up moving image numbers to make them remain in order and have to correct where they have been used. The alternative is to append at the end, which kind of defeats the purpose of ordering them by appearance in the first place. Lanate (talk) 00:45, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Blanking
If it's just simple blanking, with no disingenuous edit comment or anything, I think we should generally assume it's just a test edit and give a gentle warning unless it keeps happening. 17:44, May 2, 2015 (UTC)

Gatomon Litter
Gatomon made this comment during Episode 3 while watching DemiVeemon, Upamon, and Poromon eating. It's even in the page's Quotes section. Chimera-gui (talk) 23:34, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Manga issue
If a Digimon appears as part of a memory, it should be listed in the "Featured Characters" section in italics? For instance, DarkKnightmon appears in the chapter 11 only as part of a memory: http://mangafox.me/manga/digimon_cross_wars/v01/c011/19.html. Later in the episode appears again but in his Digixrossed form with Duskmon (http://mangafox.me/manga/digimon_cross_wars/v01/c011/34.html), so how we should list DarkKnightmon here? Charles.929 (talk) 08:34, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Spoof Digimon XWM
Hello! Where do the Spoof Digimon such as Hannahmon or Chokimon should go, in the "Xros" column or conversely in "Others"? Thanks in advance. Charles.929 (talk) 20:35, July 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it's in Others, but I'm not sure. You should ask Lanate. 22:39, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Octomon TOC
The problem is that the Table of Contents is reading as: Octomon Fujitsumon Notes and references when the ideal version should be: Design Fiction Fujitsumon Notes and references That's why I tried something to help. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. Chimera-gui (talk) 02:10, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, got the ToC to display Design and Fiction but I can't say that I how like the H1 headers look. We can try something else tomorrow. Chimera-gui (talk) 05:27, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * It might be better to split, especially when we get to a page like Agumon. Lanate (talk) 01:36, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it might be better to do that. I did find a that can transclude stuff from pages onto other pages if you still want to include the related stuff. Chimera-gui (talk) 02:11, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

Apologies
I'm sorry about what happened on Zephyrmon. I wanted to demonstrate a proof of concept for a solution to a problem that was discussed in the New Species Page Style thread. Chimera-gui (talk) 18:14, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

Daigo and Maria
Where are these from? 21:23, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I mentioned in the hidden comments. Their names are only stated in closed captions for the episodes. Someone mentioned in a Japanese blog. I first saw these names in Japanese Wikipedia but didn't have a source back then. I asked on WtW if anyone knew anything more but I only got someone saying these names are fan wank. Then in the dub credits for episode 43 was the name Daigo Aonuma, and I decided to do a better search googling "デジモンクロスウォーズ 字幕 大吾" (DXW captions Daigo) and found a Japanese blog post mentioning that theior names are mentioned in the captions. 21:43, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

Chimera and Charles?
What do you think? 13:28, September 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ping on this. 13:22, October 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Huh? Could you elaborate? Are you asking about their edits, or do you want to me to write an essay about their usefulness? Or are there talks to promote them to admins and I wasn't informed? 16:08, October 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * The third, but I hadn't been able to get us all on IRC at the same time and so was trying to be coy about it without dropping the ball entirely.
 * But, yeah, those two are the shit and I am advocating for them to have (at least) adminship. And we should probably de-admin those who we had promoted as temporary measures to allow them to help us with some grunt work. 21:01, October 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * =/ I should start using the IRC. 21:10, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

Royal Knights Civil War
What do you think of it? --ScorpionTail (talk) 01:25, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Terriermon: Just trying to be accurate. ..
Please understand.

Terriermon and its evolved forms clearly resemble rabbits, not canines.

The Japanese site claims Rapidmon's sillohette resembles a poodle due to the way its fur is shaved, but it does not state that it is a poodle.

And "Bunny Pummel" may be an English name for the attack, but it is most certainly not "random", as this Digimon zoologically resembles a rabbit.

I'm just adding more accurate appearance details, but if you want to keep errors in your Wiki, that's fine. Whatever. . . I was only trying to help. It is ridiculous to think Terriermon and its evos look like dogs. . . They do not. While they may possess minor traits of dogs, such as personality, they resemble lop-eared rabbits. That is all. Please consider this. Celestial Flare (talk) 20:32, September 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * While the Terriermon line is based on dogs, it should be remembered that it is also the twin species to the Lopmon line who are explicitly noted as being rabbits, going as far as the Ultimate of said line being the Rabbit Deva. It's not unreasonable to think that that there lagomorph elements to them in addition to the canine elements. Chimera-gui (talk) 23:58, September 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Whether you agree with Bandai or not, it's not an error for us to state that, officially, the Terriermon line is designed to resemble dogs. It is very much an error, though, for you to insert your own interpretation and present it as if it's cited to Bandai, when it very much is not -- which is what I stated in the reversion comment. No one's disputing that Terriermon has rabbit elements, they're disputing that that's in the provided citation.
 * By editing, you have agreed that you read the editing notice, which clearly states: "Do not make an edit based on what you "feel" would make more sense for the page topic. Even if the material on the page "sounds wrong", you must always check the published material to confirm whether it is true or not. The admins will not hesitate to slap you with a block if you add false claims while revising what you view as a "mistake"."
 * Don't call us "ridiculous" or say we're "keeping errors" because you decided you had no obligation to peruse the editing notice, check the source, or read the revert rationale. Be more responsible next time. 14:19, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Hello Kwj1991 20:19, September 28, 2015 (UTC) My name is Kyle

Digivolution
If videogame digimon evolution are not aloud, than why Kyaromon and Pafumon are ok (which comes from a video game) yet Kyaromon to Kudamon is bad? Shouldn't they both be not allowed?

Wikimon Error
The     page has Child listed twice after Armor, mind fixing it? Chimera-gui (talk) 21:15, October 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Fixed. It was an error in the template, so every page listing Child and Perfect Digimon would have it. 23:08, October 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I saw that, thank you for fixing the template. Chimera-gui (talk) 00:02, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Stream dubbing
I'm very uncomfortable with using dub names from livestreams before the game is released. We can list them as alternate names, but the very fact that it's not set in stone makes it open to change. 18:18, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re: 02.jpg
It can be deleted. I didn't even know it was still around. Rad140 (Message) 23:11, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Unecessary reverts
Why are you making stupid reverts? A genuine link is better than a broken link. There's an actual page which details the Digimon V-Pets and has details on Deltamon and others from the very thing that it debuted from.--Why so calllous? 15:30, October 16, 2015 (UTC)


 * You're basically saying that the V-pet digivolutions aren't official, but this is where the whole damn franchise started. They're genuine and it's common knowledge :S For proper and genuine wiki pages, yes they should be referenced, which I was going to add later. Instead of removing them, how about referencing them yourself? Help out another user with their edits, which are completely fine? Or does it make you feel big and tough to revert someones edits?


 * I get the prospective link thing, I do it myself on another wiki. But the actual name isn't entirely correct. The name of the franchise is Digimon, not Digital Monster. Digimon STANDS for Digital Monsters yes but the franchise name is Digimon. Same with Pokémon, yes it's Pocket Monsters in Japan but this is an otherwise English wiki.


 * You should include ALL possible evolutions, else you're just being uninformative and witholding information from fans and wiki users. For this to be a genuine and proper wiki (which it isn't fully at the moment, it's a fucking mess) you should be as informative as possible. Including all the v-pet evolutions doesn't mess up the wiki and make it look messy. It's not even going to expand the respective template section much, if at all.--Why so calllous? 15:41, October 16, 2015 (UTC)


 * PS
 * I was thinking of adding them myself if I had the time, there's enough info to constitute a separate page I think.--Why so calllous? 15:43, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * You're missing the point. The evolutions present in the v-pets and other games, like Piyomon → Leomon, are simply gameplay mechanics, and often nonsensical, and are only possible because if they weren't you wouldn't be able to play as the character. That's why we only include what is depicted as happening in a story or what can't be controled by the player, like many Baby-I > Baby-II in the v-pets are, since the only requirement is "time passage". If you wanna argue this, take it to KrytenKoro and Lanate, as that rule has been in place since before I even joined the Wiki.
 * No, I don't feel big and tough at all. I'm just following protocol.
 * "[T]he actual name isn't correct." Read the box. It clearly says "Digital Monster Ver.5". If you can find a source for it being named "Digimon Ver.5" or "Digimon V" in an American English release, we can talk. But otherwise we use the Japanese name because we don't artificially dub names. If Toei announced Digimon Savers 2 now, we would cover it as Digimon Savers 2, not Digimon Data Squad 2. See Digimon Savers the Movie: Ultimate Power! Activate Burst Mode!! for a practical example. 16:16, October 16, 2015 (UTC)


 * This is a Japanese franchise with fictional monsters, hardly any of it makes sense lol! There's no point, I know how this kind of Wiki works, nobodies ideas will be listened to because the rules are "gospel" and already in place. I have a virtual pet box literally right in front of me that has Digimon in big black letters. I've seen the only Digimon Savers movie. Yes, that movie was never dubbed so it's only official name is as you said it. Of course, we wouldn't assume it as Digimon Data Squad 2 until an actual dub was released, that I agree with.


 * If you look |here, you'll see the European box packages for Versions 1 through 5, even 6 (which was Aus only, but the box is practically the same! As another reference, |here you'll see all the different official boxes for the Digimon V-Pet Ver.1, where most of them are as I described. The sticker that comes with the box brand new has kanji on it, followed by "Version 2" (as an example) and is the same for all other releases. There are many different names we could use, yes, but the most recognizable and sensical name to use is "Digimon V-Pet/Virtual Pet Ver.#".--Why so calllous? 17:00, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Were those released in the USA? Because the USA name is what matters to this Wiki, and the only one I could find was Digimon Battle Pet for the first game, and only for the first game. And the "English" in those pictures could refer to, say, Singapore, specially with the full text reading "English/Asia". 18:32, October 16, 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry, that second link should have been |this. The first picture (from my previous message) is the English/Asia releases (including US) for 1-5 and 6 is the Australian (and only) release but is styled the same and can be regarded as English. The link from this message details the differences in packaging. The one we should be familiar with is the far left one, whereas the one marked just "Eur" is for non-primary English speaking countries (everywhere apart from the UK, and possibly Greece). This particular Eur box is Spanish. The second Eur blister pack was to cover all Europe (hence the various languages covered on the front) and was done soon after the initial release I believe, though they still did boxes in a lot of places.


 * So yeah, the main name is just "Digimon" really. Most call it "Digimon V-Pet Ver./V/V.#" and the full name in actuality is "Bandai Tamagotchi Digimon, The Original Battling Digital Monster". Note on both pictures the English/Asia release has a rip on the top right for a lot of the boxes, which is where the sticker is that details the version. It's a square-ish spikey gold sticker with some kanji and the (for my box) "Version 2" below it.--Why so calllous? 20:19, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * If the name is just Digimon, and the version is not part of the name, then I don't know what to do. I guess you should inform this to the other admins or open a discussion in the forum. Maybe "Digimon (Ver.5)", but I will continue linking to the Japanese name for now, and correct the names later. 20:56, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's that much of a big deal if the names are changed to what they really are. I'd happily go through every Digimon in the Virtual Pet line right up to Xros Wars V-Pets and change info accordingly. I'll take a picture of my box soon and show you the sticker which clearly shows the version of the Digimon V-Pet in particular.--Why so calllous? 21:24, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * There's a program called AutoWikiBrowser that can do the replacing automatically. As for the version, if it's just a sticker, I don't it should be counted as part of the name, and would just be a parser. But ask KrytenKoro and Lanate. 21:30, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's fine. If that's not a good enough reason to say it's called Digimon V-Pet Ver.5, etc. than what is? It's part of the actual box and the product itself, and is of course an official Bandai product. It's really common knowledge in terms of how fans, etc. differentiate them all. File Island is a great resource and credible at that. Nvm, I might ask, we'll see.--Why so calllous? 21:47, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * You can ask Kryten what he thinks, but if the official localization is "Digimon" then "Digimon (Ver.N)" is fine or "Digimon Ver.N" with the appropriate sourcing. Lanate (talk) 05:11, October 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * 1) If you believe another editor is acting in bad faith, talk to an admin and request them to look into it. Trying to start fights will not be accepted on this wiki.
 * 2) File Island is a fansite, and while they're often extremely helpful, they've been wrong before. Even if they've only been wrong once, that means that they cannot be used like a primary source - we're a topic wiki, not wikipedia, which means we source information to the primary sources, not secondary or tertiary.
 * 3) Along that line, the "names the fandom uses to differentiate something" is incredibly untenable for our use, as the fandom is so, so wrong about things so, so often, even about basic names of episodes or chapters.
 * 4) If we're using the localized names (which I agree we should), then "Digimon (Ver. X)" appears to be appropriate. Unless someone wants to actually spring for one of these and see what the registered product name above the barcode is, the only printed name I can see is "Digimon", meaning any differentiation would be up to the parsers. Probably should move the v-pet page to "Digimon (virtual pet) as well, and split off the pendulums and digivices. If you can provide a picture of the sticker, then I believe we might be able to use that to inform the official name. I've found one pic of a box with the sticker (here), but I can't see anything on it besides the nihongo.
 * 5) Someone should probably write a transcript of the story for the American virtual pet, with the Megalithic Mainframe and everything. We should probably also start a project to archive any helpful sites, after what happened with Collectors. I believe Theigno had talked about one that should be grabbed soon, but I don't remember which it was. 14:11, October 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't call it bad faith, just trying to figure out the logic behind what I deemed illogical at the time. I wouldn't start a fight, first because it's impossible over the internet and secondly, we're all just fans here, we should work together.
 * We certainly shouldn't unconsider them entirely, from personal experience, the info there has been been wrong if at all. However, I get it, OFFICIAL sources should be used as much as possible.
 * They have been called Ver.5 and such like on official sources I've seen before. From the stuff you can find now, calling them Digimon V-Pet (Ver.5) or something isn't right as such, but it's not wrong either.
 * I agree completely. The sticker on that link you provided is the exact sticker that's on my Ver.2 box, but of course has kanji followed by "Version 2". I'll see if I can upload a picture of it soon so you can see it mroe clearly than the Ver.5 box on your link. "Digimon (Ver.X)" is close, but it doesn't say exactly what it's referring too, hence why I'd suggest any links say "Digimon V-Pet/Virtual Pet (Ver.X)/Ver.X, it just makes sense. 9 times out 10, everyone will know what you're referring too, unless a fan doesn't know or hasn't heard of the franchises origins in the Tamagotchi world.


 * 1) Calling another editor's edits "stupid" and accusing them of trying to act "big and tough" is taking things personally and trying to start a fight. It's not appropriate behavior. Please do not do it again.
 * 2) File Island can be used as a guide for what kind of information to include, but because they are unofficial, they cannot be used as a source, end of.
 * 3) The name of the item is pretty clearly "Digimon". Unless we can find something else to inform the title, any other qualifiers would be unofficial parsers, and would have to marked as such. A portion of the job is to make sure fans know what we're talking about -- a second (and much larger) portion is to make sure we are correcting fan misconceptions by using the most accurate and official of information. 18:53, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * And yet this wiki is not infallible such as Millenniummon's character page mentioning Machinedramon of the Dark Masters even though it's never been explicitly confirmed and in fact Wikimon doesn't link them at all and instead only says that a dying Machinedramon became part of Millenniummon, creates numerous plotholes, and is vehemently opposed by the fanbase to the point of being the number one reason Ryo is so heavily disliked (and I'm putting it mildly). Chimera-gui (talk) 19:59, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, the first game explicitly says Mugendramon was defeated by Taichi. That implies it's the Dark Master. 20:45, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * There are already two major issues with that conclusion: The first is that it assumes that the Taichi that defeated was Adventure-verse Tai(chi) and not Taichi from V-Tamer. Secondly as AdventureHearts on tumblr pointed out, Machinedramon in Adventure was completely destroyed along with its territory so how could it survive long enough to become Millenniummon?

And then of course there's fan backlash against this from fans who wanted the Dark Masters to be reborn (which is itself stupid but it is what it is). Chimera-gui (talk) 21:10, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * V-Tamer? What? The games' stories don't have any link to V-Tamer. Believing it to be the V-Tamer Taichi would require more assumptions than saying it's Adenture Taichi. Plus, that line is said by Gennai, who has no known reason to be aware of the V-Tamer world.
 * Second, the entire point of Millenniumon is that it has time powers. Millenniumon can easily pull Mugendramon from the moment it was fatally injured to allow his own creation. Seriously, that doesn't require a complex explanation. 22:37, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * And the games with Ryo/Milleniummon's backstory are linked to both Adventure and Tamers but that doesn't stop anyone from treating the Ryo from the games, 02 and Tamers as three separate people.

Also Milleniummon saving Machinedramon would not make sense since it creates a paradox and adds credibility to the idea that Milleniummon deliberately manipulated Ken into creating Kimeramon to allow his creation as well, something you refuse to acknowledge as viable, rather than Kimeramon being a byproduct of Ken's memories of Milleniummon influenced by the Dark Spore. Any explanation for Machinedramon's survival cannot for that reason involve Milleniummon. You also skimmed over the backlash issue I mentioned. Chimera-gui (talk) 23:20, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm decently sure I put a long reasoning a while back, but I can't find it. My opinion has always been that the Kimeramon and Machinedramon who formed Millenniummon are distinct entities from the Dark Master and Ken's experiment.


 * Also, Gennai says that "Taichi-tachi" defeated them. Here's the Japanese script for the around Gennai's introduction to Ryo:

しかし　にんげんかいから きた　えらばれしコドモ たちと アグモンや ガブモンや パタモンたちの ちからによって せかいは　へいわを とりもどした. . . しかし たおしきれなかった キメラモン そして　ムゲンドラモン もともと　この２タイは あやまった　もくてきで ジンイテキにつくられた ゆうごうデジモン. . . タイチたちにやぶれたあと ヤツらは　たがいに いきのびるダメに ゆうごうし　あらたな ヘンイタイとなって うまれかわったのじゃ！


 * Anyway, I'll reiterate my position that they're distinct entities, and while I admit that I may be missing subtleties from playing only the HK version, I don't see the implications that others apparently see.


 * I think we also managed to get away from the original V-Pet naming discussion? Lanate (talk) 03:08, October 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * 1) Death Evolution is a thing. With canon avenues available, if a character in the Adventure universe says they were defeated by Taichi and friends, we assume that they were the character defeated by Taichi and friends. Any oddities about that is left up to Bandai to solve -- we document the fiction, we don't try to create it or cover up the bits that are inconvenient.
 * 2) No such thing is said about Kimeramon. We don't create fanon assumptions that they're the same character or not, no matter how much sense it makes to use personally. If tri or a memorial book decides to say "Millenniummon's Kimeramon is the same entity as the Emperor's", then we can add that, as we are in the process of doing with the XWM Wizarmon, Tailmon, and UlforceV-dramon, despite the inconsistencies. Until then, we have no identifying information beyond species.
 * 3) We identify the Tamers and Adventure Ryo as the same person because the canon specifically says they are. It may be in a publication that creates even more plot holes, it may create a lot of difficult questions that most fans would prefer not to think about, but neither of those are our problem. Brave Tamer puts it in black and white, as well as certain portions of the dub fiction (at least one European magazine issue written by Chris McFeely). Konaka's production notes further explain that the usage was intentional. We do not care about what the fans want the canon to say, we care about what the canon actually says.
 * 4) "It creates plotholes" is not a reason to deny what the canon tells us. We have individual episodes that create plotholes within themselves, we are not dealing with sacred cows here. I could go on at length (and have, on withthewill) about how continuity has been broken since the first TV series. Again: we document, we don't create, and we don't worship.
 * 5) We should not give a crap what the fanbase thinks about how a character "should" be, because half the time the canon says they are explicitly wrong. I am so freaking tired of people telling me that Omegamon X, as a species, is able to delete the Digital World -- the canon says something very different. (In my personal opinion, at this point "the fanbase disagrees with this" should be considered evidence for a claim.) 15:08, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Kryten posted before me, but I was already typing, so I'll post anyway:
 * "Fans consider Ryo as three different people". Whatever the fans think is irrelevant. The fandom thinks a lot of weird stuff.
 * "It would create a paradox". So what? Many stories have those. Heck, look at . In fact, we even have an example of a paradox in the franchise: The Xros Wars manga. Taiki was sent to the Digital World by Wizarmon, who came from the future, gave a X Loader to Taiki, and sent him two months in the past. In the Digital World, Taiki meets Wizarmon before being thrown at space-time by ZeedMillenniumon. Wizarmon creates three copies of Taiki's X Loader, one of which he keeps with him when ZeedMillenniumon hits him with Time Destroyer. Wizarmon then finds Taiki from before going to the Digital Wold, and gives him the final X Loader. Taiki's X Loader is a copy of itself. Deal with it.
 * "Skimmed through the backlash". I didn't skim through it. Fan backlash is simply irrelevant.
 * About the Chimairamon, I don't remember refusing to accept the possibility of it being the same as Millenniumon. But the canon doesn't say they are the same.
 * About Mugendramon being the Dark Master, recently I found WonderSwan profiles for Millenniumon and Apocalymon, the latter claiming Apocalymon was born from Millenniumon's evil power. Ajora confirmed Millenniumon's profile is legit, but she can't confirm Apocalymon's because she doesn't have Apocalymon in the games yet, but says she would assume it's correct until then. So, we have confirmation Millenniumon created Apocalymon, which basically connects Millenniumon to the Dark Masters. Due to this, and the line saying "was defeated by Taichi and friends", it's not much of a stretch to think they are one and the same. 15:43, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Lanate, are you able to extract Digimon profiles from those games? 15:50, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry that I got a bit off-topic there, I just thought it was important to reiterate some of our core policies regarding coverage. In addition, I think we should wait on reorganizing any Apocalymon stuff until we get that profile. 16:24, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * I mentioned the Kimeramon theory since it makes about as much sense as the idea of Millenniummon saving Machinedramon. But since Death Digivolution is a thing that point's moot.

I'd also be a little more hesitate to trust profiles that directly contradict established canon which states that Apocalymon form from the remnants of Digimon that failed to Digivolve with no mention of Millenniummon whatsoever.

And as an Administrator of the TMM wiki, I understand the frustration with fan-base idiocy. However, that does not mean that such idiocy should be simply dismissed, it should be confronted and dispelled when it comes up since just ignoring the problem is not going to make go away. Chimera-gui (talk) 17:12, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * According to one continuity, M is responsible for A's creation. According to another, A was created from negative mind data. I'm not sure these are exactly contradictory, but why exactly can't we just report both and let the reader decide which story is more "reliable"? All we have is stories, it's not like there's some pocket universe where the fiction is true and we can just observe that to get our answers.
 * Do we really need virtually every article to say "some fans believe something asinine about this topic, they're stupid tho and if it was true we'd have it on the article"? Can't we simply report the verifiable info without having to wade into a morass of Poe's Law? 20:20, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * While not exactly contradictory, these two backstories should be treated as two halves of one story assuming the profile is true.

The dispelling of myths doesn't have to be here but the myths cannot be allowed to be perpetuated. That should be done either on WiththeWill though admittedly. Chimera-gui (talk) 23:42, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * We take an all-canon stance on this wiki, but in that all-canon stance is verifiability. All that means is that we say XXX source says this and YYY source says that.

Anyway, back to the very original topic, unless there's something to prove otherwise, the English virtual pets should be something along the lines of "Digimon (Ver. X)" unless there are very compelling reasons like packaging or manuals as to why not. Actually, maybe they should be "DigiMon (Ver. X)" given the capitalization involved. Lanate (talk) 04:11, October 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not sure how useful this will be, but Digimon Life named the original MetalGreymon "MetalGreymon (DIGIMON Ver.1)". 17:53, October 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * This certainly went off on a bit of a tangent, but all good points made nonetheless. Anyway, surely common sense would say to use a name a like "Digimon V-Pet/Virtual Pet (Ver.X)" as standard, as a reader might not know what it is exactly. Yes, they can just click on it and find out, but a name that actually says what type of media/product it's referencing will make things more clear. We don't have all the Agumon pages named the same or all under on page as there's too many Agumon derivatives, etc. It's like naming a link to a ToyAgumon page Agumon.


 * Though I slightly agree with "DigiMon", that's simply a a stylisation, not necessarily the official spelling or name, etc. It's the same as calling Fear Factory's 1998 album "°BSΩLE+e" and referencing it as such, instead of just "Obsolete", which is it's actual name. How would you pronounce °BSΩLE+e? DegreeBSOmegaEPluse? No, it's pronounced " ˈɒbsəliːt ", or simply, Obsolete. .--Why so calllous? 04:09, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * We're dealing with the written word, not pronunciation. In addition, ToyAgumon aren't called Agumon. We have an official name for the item now, and we have a well-established system for naming articles, even if their topic shares a name with another topic. 06:22, November 6, 2015 (UTC)