Talk:Sistermon Ciel

Non-Japanese Origin
While this debuted in an American release, it's my understanding that it was still developed at Bandai of Japan's instruction (and for that matter, are we certain about the Dot- characters?) -- so I don't think it should be listed in that category. 13:20, July 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * I can get behind Ciel, but nothing really indicates that BoJ has that kind of direction over toys (otherwise Gallantmon Chaos Mode), and the Dot-Digimon toys, as far as I can tell, were never released in Japan. Lanate (talk) 16:20, July 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * I would keep Ciel under the tag, she has never been used in Japan and probably never will be so it's still a USA/SEA exclusive Mon for nowMarcusbwfc (talk) 19:31, July 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * As for the dot figures, Wikimon also states they're US only.Marcusbwfc (talk) 19:35, July 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * It's exclusive to non-Japanese versions, but it was still designed by habu. 12:39, July 6, 2018 (UTC)
 * Clearly to prove me wrong, Ciel has now been found in the Digimon Pendulum Ver.20th by hacking it alongside all the other hidden password Digimon. So now it's been used in Japan as well. https://twitter.com/FakeBali/status/1017396229825748992 Marcusbwfc (talk) 18:50, July 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say it was BOJ's choice though, he says he had no choice and it was ordered from overseas etc https://twitter.com/habumon/status/924061369816702977 so whilst he technically did make it, he was forced to make it. It's cool they're reusing the design though (and people think she had been redesigned with her v-pet sprite, so we'll find out)Marcusbwfc (talk) 22:24, July 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * If he made it at BoA request, it was still BoJ making it. That's different from something like Citramon. A lot of the more irksome BoA changes were, from what insiders have said, actually made at BoJ request, but they're still considered BoA-only because they are not part of the Japanese canon. 13:52, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Pic
Is this usable? it's from Bandai's Twitter so is official art work I guess. https://twitter.com/bandai_digimon/status/1039351698018299905 also as people noticed in her pendulum 20th spirte, she has indeed been redeisgned to have a sword, whilst her hair is slightly changed covering her right eye (also shown in the V-Pet)Marcusbwfc (talk) 04:24, September 11, 2018 (UTC)

Development
I was under the impression we rolled Development into design. 20:29, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I see that I was wrong. I would like to roll Development into Design. 20:30, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * I split Ciel's development into its own section as I want to have a proper design section for both twins similar to what I did for the variants of Antylamon, Terriermon/Lopmon, and the variants of Cherubimon when I finally get around to it. Chimera-gui (talk) 21:41, September 11, 2018 (UTC)

It carries guns called "T" () in each hand.
With the new Bandai arts showing the sword and no gun, should we remove this/move it to the design section where it talks about the model from HM? or keep it there due to it being the full profile for her from HM? I guess technically she could still have those guns, but I find it highly unlikely with this redesign, including type.Marcusbwfc (talk) 04:34, September 12, 2018 (UTC)