Talk:Agumon (Data Squad)

Game evolutions
Okay, should we have a section called "Game forms" and list a gallery with the evolutions from the game? 23:02, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * There's like thirty of them, and none of them have any canon aspect. At best, we could have a link to the Digimon World Data Squad/Digimon Encyclopedia, or whatever the name of the in-game encyclopedia is, where we list all the evolution requirements and stats and such. We have a draft for that already, though I can't remember where we put it. Anyway, something like "In Digimon World Data Squad, Agumon can digivolve to a variety of forms listed in the Encylopedia." 23:36, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Tyrant
Seems a bit of a strong word to describe Yggdrasil.

AvengingArchAngel (talk) 01:16, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * It demanded absolute obedience, tortured babies, and had a plan to xenocide an entire planet. It fits the definition perfectly:
 * A despot; a ruler who governs unjustly, cruelly, or harshly.  [quotations ▼]
 * (by extension) Any person who abuses the power of position or office to treat others unjustly, cruelly, or harshly.

14:13, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

"It demanded absolute obedience,…": At what specific point(s)?

"…tortured babies,…": That was more relating to it going insane?

"and had a plan to xenocide an entire planet.": That was in defence of its own planet and inhabitants from the inhabitants from the other planet who had done significant damage to its planet's inhabitants (true it was mainly Akihiro Kurata but Yggdrasil was fearful of allowing further damage from the point when Earth and the Digital World were set to collide).

"It fits the definition perfectly:", I would not say so.

AvengingArchAngel (talk) 23:02, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Has Craniamon ready to kill the DATS team for their "disloyalty to the king". Literally the first episode he is introduced, everything that he says and is said about him is that it is unacceptable to question his decision. In episode 34, we even get "Intruders? So, Craniamon has turned on me. He will pay dearly for his disloyal actions, as all who dare to challenge my final decision of destroying the Human World!"
 * 2) Tortured babies: that's not a rebuttal. It's still a tyrant because of it, and you're assuming that it went insane in the first place
 * 3) "in defense of its own planet" -- it was a bad plan that wouldn't have worked, and was much more extreme than was required, as the DATS team proved. Furthermore, Yggdrasill flatly rejected all attempts by humanity to find a more peaceful solution (remember, it sent Craniamon to execute the DATS team for even attempting to discuss the issue), and immediately decided to commit genocide. Even if it had been correct, it would still, objectively, be a tyrannical plan.
 * 4) The script outright says it right here: ""Just 'cause things didn't go your way, you want to wipe out everything and start from scratch?" / "You say you're trying to save the Digital World and the Digimon. What happened? You don't care about saving them anymore? Despite knowing the truth, you still rather destroy everything than admit you're wrong. You have no right to call yourself a King.""
 * 5) "I would not say so" -- well, that's your own opinion then? The objective facts of what it does match the definition. You've failed to demonstrate any way in which it doesn't act like a tyrant, much less that it doesn't act like a tyrant in the general case. 01:33, September 20, 2016 (UTC)