Talk:Argomon (Fresh)

proposal
Argomon (Fresh) is a Fresh Mutant Digimon. It was born from a bug in an algorithm/computational program. It has a habit of finding and converging at places where high-capacity data leaks out. They gather one by one, growing into a horde and blanketing it.
 * is the proposal having the level before the type?Marcusbwfc (talk) 20:16, July 8, 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've suggested formatting the first line as this: Argomon (Fresh) is a Fresh-level Mutant Digimon. NEO will keep the format it has as Unidentified is listed as both its Level and Type while Digimon from Xros Wars can be formatted as so: Shoutmon is a Mini Dragon Digimon of no specified level. Chimera-gui (talk) 21:10, July 8, 2020 (UTC)
 * in that case I prefer no as the XW level Digimon end up super wordy. Tho that matters less if we switch to them being XW level to match the DRB. Digitamamon might also be confusing for people.Marcusbwfc (talk) 21:30, July 8, 2020 (UTC)
 * Except I don't think XW is meant to be treated as an actual Level in the Digivolutionary sense rather than simply a blanket placeholder category that all Digimon from Xross Wars could be placed in for the sake of organization. We know they can retcon these Digimon to have proper Levels thanks to Spadamon and various media so why would XW be anything but a placeholder for the DRB? Hell, these Digimon were listed under the subcategory Xros Wars even when no level was listed at all making Xros Wars' status as a placeholder 'level' that Bandai forgot to remove all the more likely.  Likwise Digitamamon is a non-issue since we use dub terminology meaning the line would be "Digitamamon is an Ultimate-level Perfect Digimon", it would only become an issue if we inexplicably switched to the Japanese level names in which case it would just be shortened to "Digitamamon is a Perfect Digimon." Chimera-gui (talk) 23:00, July 8, 2020 (UTC)
 * what about minotarumon and magnamon? also I think when the level is in the name, like this Digimon, mentioning the level a second time would be redundant.Marcusbwfc (talk) 00:56, July 9, 2020 (UTC)
 * The other admins are considering changing Magnamon's listing as Mega to a refnote since the DRB only lists it as Armor Level. Chimera-gui (talk) 03:51, July 9, 2020 (UTC)
 * Basically, the problem I want to solve is that the first sentence is kind of bleh now, since it no longer covers design or etymology. It feels like a bark, rather than a sentence. I'm basing having the level and type in there because that's how the in-universe analyzers phrase it (and often that info is in the first sentence of the profiles anyway). Minotarumon should still be split in my opinion, Digitamamon is fair, but if we include "-level", as the anime occasionally does, that would be cleared up. I'd honestly prefer we just run with "Xros" as a level at this point. 12:48, July 9, 2020 (UTC)
 * that explanation makes a lot more sense. I would still avoid as many redundeces as possible such as not mentioning the level twice on this page due to it being in the name. I also think it works better with the "-level" attached. Maybe "type" as well? Ultimate-level perfect-type digimon". I prefer ref noting minoatarumon but I'll go with any solution that fixes its level box. As for XW level in the box, plz.Marcusbwfc (talk) 13:51, July 9, 2020 (UTC)
 * I reeaaaaaaly don't want to do -type. The anime doesn't use it and it just sounds unnatural to me. 16:28, July 9, 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry Kyten but I have to side with Marcus on Minotarumon, there is no reason to believe that Minotarumon still exists as a perfect beyond bullheadedness when the only evidence we have is a defunct card game. I would keep XW 'level' in the box as well. Chimera-gui (talk) 20:27, July 9, 2020 (UTC)
 * Dude, they released cards for that game in February. 15:34, July 10, 2020 (UTC)
 * In a limited set to promote Kizuna and before its replacement was established. Notice that there have been no new cards since then and its site has been converted to promote the new game. Hell there has not been a proper booster pack since 2005, all it's gotten since then have been promotional sets tying into the various events such as the 20th Anniversary which happened decades afterword which is not a good sign to me as someone who has been adminstrator for the wiki of a defunct card game. Chimera-gui (talk) 16:20, July 10, 2020 (UTC)